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Message-ID: <ZEZ4VCyfRNCZOO8/@infradead.org> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 05:38:44 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org> To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@...il.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@...nelisnetworks.com>, Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>, Christian Benvenuti <benve@...co.com>, Nelson Escobar <neescoba@...co.com>, Bernard Metzler <bmt@...ich.ibm.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>, Bjorn Topel <bjorn@...nel.org>, Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>, Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>, Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>, "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, bpf@...r.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Chris Mason <clm@...com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 09:28:07AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 11:17:55AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 02:43:56AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure DIRECT I/O reads that write into file backed mappings > > > are out there in the wild. > > I wonder if that is really the case? I know people tried this with > RDMA and it didn't get very far before testing uncovered data > corruption and kernel crashes.. Maybe O_DIRECT has a much smaller race > window so people can get away with it? It absolutely causes all kinds of issues even with O_DIRECT. I'd be all for trying to disallow it as it simplies a lot of things, but I fear it's not going to stick. > So, my suggestion was to mark the places where we want to allow this, > eg O_DIRECT, and block everwhere else. Lorenzo, I would significantly > par back the list you have. I think an opt-in is a good idea no matter how many places end up needing it. I'd prefer a less dramatic name and a better explanation on why it should only be set when needed. > I also suggest we force block it at some kernel lockdown level.. > > Alternatively, perhaps we abuse FOLL_LONGTERM and prevent it from > working with filebacked pages since, I think, the ease of triggering a > bug goes up the longer the pages are pinned. FOLL_LONGTERM on file backed pages is a nightmare. If you think you can get away with prohibiting it for RDMA, and KVM doesn't need it I'd be all for not allowing that at all.
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