netdev - Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast writing to file-backed mappings

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Message-ID: <ce3aa7b9-723c-6ad3-3f03-3f1736e1c253@redhat.com>
Date:   Tue, 2 May 2023 15:39:50 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast writing to
 file-backed mappings

On 02.05.23 15:36, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 03:28:40PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 02.05.23 15:10, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 03:04:27PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>> \> > We can reintroduce a flag to permit exceptions if this is really broken, are you
>>>>> able to test? I don't have an s390 sat around :)
>>>>
>>>> Matt (Rosato on cc) probably can. In the end, it would mean having
>>>>     <memoryBacking>
>>>>       <source type="file"/>
>>>>     </memoryBacking>
>>>
>>> This s390 code is the least of the problems, after this series VFIO
>>> won't startup at all with this configuration.
>>
>> Good question if the domain would fail to start. I recall that IOMMUs for
>> zPCI are special on s390x. [1]
> 
> Not upstream they aren't.
> 
>> Well, zPCI is special. I cannot immediately tell when we would trigger
>> long-term pinning.
> 
> zPCI uses the standard IOMMU stuff, so it uses a normal VFIO container
> and the normal pin_user_pages() path.


@Christian, Matthew: would we pin all guest memory when starting the 
domain (IIRC, like on x86-64) and fail early, or only when the guest 
issues rpcit instructions to map individual pages?

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb