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Message-ID: <87jzwrxrz8.fsf@nvidia.com>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 14:50:26 +0300
From: Vlad Buslov <vladbu@...dia.com>
To: Peilin Ye <yepeilin.cs@...il.com>, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>
CC: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Pedro Tammela <pctammela@...atatu.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>, Jiri
 Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>, Peilin Ye <peilin.ye@...edance.com>, Daniel
 Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, "John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@...a.com>, <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Cong Wang
	<cong.wang@...edance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 net 6/6] net/sched: qdisc_destroy() old ingress and
 clsact Qdiscs before grafting

On Sun 28 May 2023 at 14:54, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 4:23 AM Peilin Ye <yepeilin.cs@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jakub and all,
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 07:33:24PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> > On Fri, 26 May 2023 16:09:51 -0700 Peilin Ye wrote:
>> > > Thanks a lot, I'll get right on it.
>> >
>> > Any insights? Is it just a live-lock inherent to the retry scheme
>> > or we actually forget to release the lock/refcnt?
>>
>> I think it's just a thread holding the RTNL mutex for too long (replaying
>> too many times).  We could replay for arbitrary times in
>> tc_{modify,get}_qdisc() if the user keeps sending RTNL-unlocked filter
>> requests for the old Qdisc.

After looking very carefully at the code I think I know what the issue
might be:

   Task 1 graft Qdisc   Task 2 new filter
           +                    +
           |                    |
           v                    v
        rtnl_lock()       take  q->refcnt
           +                    +
           |                    |
           v                    v
Spin while q->refcnt!=1   Block on rtnl_lock() indefinitely due to -EAGAIN

This will cause a real deadlock with the proposed patch. I'll try to
come up with a better approach. Sorry for not seeing it earlier.

>>
>> I tested the new reproducer Pedro posted, on:
>>
>> 1. All 6 v5 patches, FWIW, which caused a similar hang as Pedro reported
>>
>> 2. First 5 v5 patches, plus patch 6 in v1 (no replaying), did not trigger
>>    any issues (in about 30 minutes).
>>
>> 3. All 6 v5 patches, plus this diff:
>>
>> diff --git a/net/sched/sch_api.c b/net/sched/sch_api.c
>> index 286b7c58f5b9..988718ba5abe 100644
>> --- a/net/sched/sch_api.c
>> +++ b/net/sched/sch_api.c
>> @@ -1090,8 +1090,11 @@ static int qdisc_graft(struct net_device *dev, struct Qdisc *parent,
>>                          * RTNL-unlocked filter request(s).  This is the counterpart of that
>>                          * qdisc_refcount_inc_nz() call in __tcf_qdisc_find().
>>                          */
>> -                       if (!qdisc_refcount_dec_if_one(dev_queue->qdisc_sleeping))
>> +                       if (!qdisc_refcount_dec_if_one(dev_queue->qdisc_sleeping)) {
>> +                               rtnl_unlock();
>> +                               rtnl_lock();
>>                                 return -EAGAIN;
>> +                       }
>>                 }
>>
>>                 if (dev->flags & IFF_UP)
>>
>>    Did not trigger any issues (in about 30 mintues) either.
>>
>> What would you suggest?
>
>
> I am more worried it is a wackamole situation. We fixed the first
> reproducer with essentially patches 1-4 but we opened a new one which
> the second reproducer catches. One thing the current reproducer does
> is create a lot rtnl contention in the beggining by creating all those
> devices and then after it is just creating/deleting qdisc and doing
> update with flower where such contention is reduced. i.e it may just
> take longer for the mole to pop up.
>
> Why dont we push the V1 patch in and then worry about getting clever
> with EAGAIN after? Can you test the V1 version with the repro Pedro
> posted? It shouldnt have these issues. Also it would be interesting to
> see how performance of the parallel updates to flower is affected.

This or at least push first 4 patches of this series. They target other
older commits and fix straightforward issues with the API.


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