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Message-ID: <34531d5f-0804-4c8b-94c0-ce12ff8047dc@lunn.ch>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:59:07 +0200
From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, aliceryhl@...gle.com,
	miguel.ojeda.sandonis@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 08:47:43PM -0700, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 07:02:52PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> 
> > IMO we have too much useless playground stuff in C already, don't get me
> > started. Let's get a real device prove that this thing can actually work
> > :( We can waste years implementing imaginary device drivers that nobody
> > ends up using.
> 
> Yes, the long standing policy seems to be not to merge "dummy"
> drivers.  The original PTP patch set had one, but at the time the
> reviews said firmly "No" to that.

Hi Richard

I think in the modern day, you could probably add code to netdevsim to
aid testing PTP. It should however by accompanied with selftests which
actually make use of what you add.

	Andrew

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