netdev - Re: [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers

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Message-ID: <20230616113147.45fd9773@kernel.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:31:47 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@...il.com>, FUJITA Tomonori
 <fujita.tomonori@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
 rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, aliceryhl@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:04:59 +0200 Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > Actually Andrew is interested, and PHY drivers seem relatively simple..
> > /me runs away  
> 
> :-)
> 
> I think because they are so simple, there is not much to gain by
> implementing them in rust.

I see many benefits :) Its a smallish and self-contained piece so it's
achievable. Yet it interacts (to the extent the complexity of the PHY
calls for it) with core netdev structures. Some PHYs even do
timestamping which brings in interactions with skbs etc.

Major benefit number 2 is that Rust is currently missing any real life
bus bindings (AFAIU) and PHYs and the bus they live on are maintained
by the same person 😁️