netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 02/12] mm: introduce execmem_text_alloc() and jit_text

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:23:56 -0700
From: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@...nel.org>
To: "Song Liu" <song@...nel.org>, "Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/12] mm: introduce execmem_text_alloc() and jit_text_alloc()

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Song Liu wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:31 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>>
> [...]
>> >
>> > So the idea was that jit_text_alloc() will have a cache of large pages
>> > mapped ROX, will allocate memory from those caches and there will be
>> > jit_update() that uses text poking for writing to that memory.
>> >
>> > Upon allocation of a large page to increase the cache, that large page will
>> > be "invalidated" by filling it with breakpoint instructions (e.g int3 on
>> > x86)
>>
>> Does that work on x86?
>>
>> That is in no way gauranteed for other architectures; on arm64 you need
>> explicit cache maintenance (with I-cache maintenance at the VA to be executed
>> from) followed by context-synchronization-events (e.g. via ISB instructions, or
>> IPIs).
>
> I guess we need:
> 1) Invalidate unused part of the huge ROX pages;
> 2) Do not put two jit users (including module text, bpf, etc.) in the
> same cache line;
> 3) Explicit cache maintenance;
> 4) context-synchronization-events.
>
> Would these (or a subset of them) be sufficient to protect us from torn read?

Maybe?  #4 is sufficiently vague that I can't really interpret it.

I have a half-drafted email asking for official clarification on the rules that might help shed light on this.  I find that this type of request works best when it's really well written :)

>
> Thanks,
> Song