netdev - Re: [net-next PATCH RFC v3 1/8] dt-bindings: net: document ethernet PHY package nodes

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Message-ID: <86755f4d-3cae-41c4-8090-09ae83ea7af9@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 23:57:07 +0200
From: Sergey Ryazanov <ryazanov.s.a@...il.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@...il.com>
Cc: Robert Marko <robert.marko@...tura.hr>,
 Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH RFC v3 1/8] dt-bindings: net: document ethernet
 PHY package nodes

Hi Andrew,

On 07.01.2024 20:44, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> Honestly I would postpone untile we have a clear idea of what is
>> actually part of the PHY and what can be handled externally... Example
>> setting the clock in gcc, writing a specific driver...
> 
> That is really core of the problem here. We have no reliable
> description of the hardware. The datasheet often starts with a block
> diagram of the PHY package. Sometimes there is a product brief with
> the same diagram. We need that published. I'm not asking for the full
> data sheet, just the introductory text which gives a high level
> overview of what the hardware actually is. Then we can sketch out a
> high level Linux architecture for the PHY package.

True. I am with you on this. Can we put these words over a mailing list 
entrance door? It will save tons of time for both maintainers and 
submitters.

--
Sergey