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Message-ID: <r7gijupnoalg3z24fxjzhsmagndsmtn4uuhqfptnp2625g56fo@huucsmobulsu>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:02:05 +0100
From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@...nel.org>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@...il.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>, 
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@...zon.com>, alexhenrie24@...il.com, branden@...ian.org, 
	linux-man@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtnetlink.7: Document struct ifa_cacheinfo

Hi Branden,

On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 11:45:31AM GMT, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> You're not bringing any new information to the table, and you don't
> appear to understand why the two-space rule is in place for _typesetting
> software_.  I don't just mean *roff, but TeX as well.
> 
> Neither of these is a WYSIWYG system.  Neither of them is Markdown.
> 
> The rule is not there so that people can argue over how many space
> widths should separate sentences.  The rule is there so that the
> formatter knows where the boundaries between sentences _are_.

Actually, in this case it was about the use of intersentence space in a
commit message.  It was not about the contents of a manual page itself.

However, I think that loss of information is equally bad for a human
than for a type-setting system such as roff(1) or TeX.

> If you despise the use of two spaces between sentences in a *roff source
> document, there's an easy solution: use what Alex calls "semantic
> newlines".
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/groff/manual/groff.html.node/Sentences.html#Sentences

[...]

> Arguing about the number of spaces between sentences in a discussion of
> "semantic newlines" (or whatever you want to call them) is
> counterproductive and wasteful of time.

Hmmm, you're right.  Using semantic newlines completely removes
intersentence spaces in manual pages; we shouldn't document that in
man-pages(7).  However, for commit messages I still want to enforce
two spaces, so we should probably document it in CONTRIBUTING.d/patches.

Have a lovely night!
Alex

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<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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