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Message-ID: <20260202165320.7ddb25f8@kernel.org>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 16:53:20 -0800
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Li Chen <me@...ux.beauty>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] liveupdate: suppress TCP RST during post-kexec
 restore window

On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 09:44:27 +0800 Li Chen wrote:
>  > On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 22:51:19 +0800 Li Chen wrote:  
>  > > During a kexec-based live update, userspace may restore established TCP
>  > > connections after the new kernel has booted (e.g. via CRIU). Any packet
>  > > arriving for a not-yet-restored socket will hit the no-socket path and
>  > > trigger a TCP RST, causing the peer to immediately drop the connection.  
>  > 
>  > Can you not add a filter to simply drop those packets until workload is
>  > running again? It'd actually be less racy than this hac^w patch ...
>  >   
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> When you say "add a filter", do you mean installing a temporary drop rule
> (nftables/iptables/tc) in the network domain which does not get rebooted by
> kexec (e.g. LB/ToR/host firewall), so packets never reach the new kernel
> until the workload is restored and ready?
> 
> If you meant a filter inside the kexec'ed kernel, I'm worried it won't cover
> the critical window: kexec resets the ruleset, so we'd have to install the
> drop rule extremely early (initramfs) before any packets hit the no-socket
> path, which still seems inherently racy.

I'm not sure what your flow is exactly, but I assume you drive 
the workload restore from user space already?

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