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Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.b86b179834ad@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:22:28 -0500
From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, 
 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
Cc: davem@...emloft.net, 
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 edumazet@...gle.com, 
 pabeni@...hat.com, 
 andrew+netdev@...n.ch, 
 horms@...nel.org, 
 shuah@...nel.org, 
 willemb@...gle.com, 
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 donald.hunter@...il.com, 
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 linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: use SO_TXTIME to
 schedule packets together

Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 23:21:07 -0500 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > I wonder what's going wrong here.
> > > > 
> > > > fq_classify should pick the queue based on skb->sk also for packet
> > > > sockets.
> > > > 
> > > > And flow_queue_add should add the packets to the tail of the linear
> > > > list if the delivery time is identical to that of the tail.  
> > > 
> > > It works but requires that we either modify the qdisc config to set
> > > a orphan_mask of 1, or somehow set the skb->hash on the AF_PACKET skbs.  
> > 
> > Oh right, fq_classify does not use skb->sk for packet sockets because
> > they are in default sk_state TCP_CLOSE.
> > 
> > And this is by design, as clearly documented, as packet sockets should
> > not be assumed to be a single flow:
> > 
> >         } else if (sk->sk_state == TCP_CLOSE) {
> >                 unsigned long hash = skb_get_hash(skb) & q->orphan_mask;
> >                 /*
> >                  * Sockets in TCP_CLOSE are non connected.
> >                  * Typical use case is UDP sockets, they can send packets
> >                  * with sendto() to many different destinations.
> >                  * We probably could use a generic bit advertising
> >                  * non connected sockets, instead of sk_state == TCP_CLOSE,
> >                  * if we care enough.
> >                  */
> >                 sk = (struct sock *)((hash << 1) | 1UL);
> >         }
> > 
> > An orphan_mask of 1 sounds like an effective workaround.
> > 
> > I don't see a way to force a specific skb_get_hash result across
> > flows, given hashrnd.
> 
> So WDYT about the patch? I don't wanna tweak qdiscs on real interfaces.
> It's way to hard to undo. IMHO either we keep the patch as is with its
> limited effect or just drop it.

Reviewed-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>

I would say keep it. When respinning, maybe add an explicit note that
for this to be effective FQ needs to be installed.

Aside: there currently is no API for the kernel to communicate whether
a cmsg SO_TXTIME request was honored or ignored. But if a caller cares
it can either request a Tx timestamp.

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