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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:51:27 -0500
From: Bill Cox <>
Subject: Re: [PHC] "Predictable" vs "pseudorandom" KDFs

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Samuel Neves <> wrote:
> On 27-02-2014 20:11, Solar Designer wrote:
>> How about "cache timing safe" and "cache timing unsafe"?
> That is probably the clearest and least ambiguous option. I don't like
> "predictable" and "pseudorandom", those terms don't need more overloads.
> For the sake of bike-shedding, I propose "silent" and "noisy".

I had to look up bike shedding.  This is definitely a bike shedding opportunity.

I could get behind "silent" and "noisy".  That's better than my
original "pure" and "dirty".

How about "stealthy" and "noisy"?  Stealthy sounds cooler.  Definitely
a bike shed moment...


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