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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:16:35 -0400
From: Bill Cox <>
Subject: Re: [PHC] gambit wiki strength

Good point.  I'll update the bullet point by removing SHA3.  Would that
make it correct?  I certainly feel the sponge usage in Gambit is a
simplification and one of it's strongest points.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Krisztián Pintér <>wrote:

> this appeared on the wiki
> > Simplifies password hashing with SHA3 sponge construction
> which i don't fully understand, but for sure it is not precise,
> because gambit doesn't use SHA3. SHA3 is in the draft, but most likely
> it will contain 4 SHA variants, and 2 SHAKEs, but none of those match
> the capacity/padding choice in gambit document/sample source, and none
> of those allow duplexing, which is a necessity. rather, gambit shares
> crypto core (keccak) with SHAs and SHAKEs. thus i would use keccak in
> the cited sentence (but i still don't understand it).

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