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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:28:49 +0200
From: Krisztián Pintér <>
Subject: more woes, last woes

okay, maybe i'm too bitchy, so this is the last time i'm not going to
complain about this, and then i let people in charge to deal with such

here are argon strengths as of now:

> Tradeoff-resilient (50-70 computational penalty for using 1/2 of
> memory)

what does that mean? 50-70 what?

> Simple architecture

simple compared to what? certainly not simple compared to pbkdf2, or
compared to catena.

> Fast with AES-NI (five-round AES)

what does that mean? why do we care how fast it is if we plan to run
it for 100ms anyway? what is "with" here? aes-ni is a prerequisite of
fastness? or cause? what is the point?

if the strengths section will continue to contain such vague and adhoc
claims, its usability will not be very high.

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