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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:43:10 -0400
From: Bill Cox <>
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: [PHC] What Microsoft Would like from the PHC - Passwords14 presentation

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Krisztián Pintér <>

> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Bill Cox <> wrote:
> > It obviously has the same cache timing resistance characteristics as the
> other hybrid designs, which are labelled with "maybe" rather than "no".
> there is no such thing as sorta cache timing resistant. it either is
> or isn't. if it isn't, we can talk about how hard to exploit.

OK, then all the hybrid designs are *not* cache timing resistant.  However,
they all happen to be better at *defending the password* than any of the
cache-timing resistant algorithms, even when the attacker has cache-timing
data.  What should we call algorithms that provide better cache-timing
password defense than cache-timing resistant algorithms?


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