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Message-ID: <7010715657.20141210214945@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:49:45 +0100
From: Krisztián Pintér <pinterkr@...il.com>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net
Subject: Re: [PHC] PHC finalists announcement

Marsh Ray (at Wednesday, December 10, 2014, 12:21:41 AM):

> Read the Bcrypt paper if you haven't already. It's a great paper
> about a great password hashing scheme.
> https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/usenix99/provos/provos.pdf

> But observe the ambiguity it leaves for implementers wishing to
> make a bug-free and compatible implementation.

> Observe the lack of a portable reference implementation.

> Observe the lack of a diverse set of test vectors.

you know, these are pretty good points. i personally don't like
bcrypt, but it is undoubtedly delivers what it promises. and also you
can find a lot of applications and a lot of love for it. i myself
implemented it, and i've never read the original paper. i used the
openbsd source and 3rd party implementations. for all i care, the
original paper could be in chinese. i was able to implement keccak
based on the papers, but only after a lot of trial and error. yet,
keccak was selected anyway, for the soundness of the *algorithm*.