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Date: Mon Jun 12 10:54:42 2006 From: fd at g-0.org (GroundZero Security) Subject: scanning When you say that by running a portscan you "dossed" a whole network then i would say either you are crazy or your portscanner is seriously broken lol I have been doing pen-tests since 1998 and never ever dossed a whole Network by accident, especially not with a simple portscan. -sk ----- Original Message ----- From: <schanulleke.29172787@...glines.com> To: <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] scanning > --- Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote: > > What's this mean? It means that if you > scan some lame-ass system and it > > crashes as a result, you might be in deep > shit. And "it shouldn't have > > crashed from a portscan" does *not* hold > up in court. > > Having done pen-testing in the past I have disabled (dos-ed) > systems and entire networks with a portscan. > > My employer would never let > me do any work withaout a prior written agreement. > > However, law is highly > fluctuate over time and from country to country. Dutch law recently changed. > In the past you had to have broken a security barrier in order to be accused > of hacking, now it has changed to "with the intent to do harm". > > Is it > illegal? Not enough data to compute / that is one for the lawers... > Is it > unwise? Probably... > Will you get cought/sued? Unlikely... > Would I bother > to sue you? No... > > Schanulleke > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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