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Message-ID: <4231B231.80605@sdf.lonestar.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:58:57 -0500
From: bkfsec <bkfsec@....lonestar.org>
To: Paul Laudanski <zx@...tlecops.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	news@...uriteam.com, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: iDownload/iSearch responds to Spyware Critics


Paul Laudanski wrote:

>Slashdot ran two stories earlier on how iDownload/iSearch sent letters to
>anti-spyware companies/websites telling them to [
>http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/1830243&from=rss ] stop
>listing their brand as spyware or malware.  The spyware critics [
>http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/02/0229222&from=rss ]
>responded back indicating they do not agree with iDownload's assertions.  
>iDownload has now responded back to the spyware critics.  Two sites to
>date received replies, read [
>http://castlecops.com/article-5793-nested-0-0.html ] CastleCops and [
>http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2005/03/idownloads-response-to-sunbelt.html
>] Sunbelt Software for details.  Other sources picked up this story
>including [
>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=615884
>] The Independent, [ http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/60608 ]
>Broadbandreports, [ http://castlecops.com/article5772.html ] Robin, and
>ZDNet Blog [ http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/index.php?p=28 ] Spyware
>Confidential.
>
>  
>
What's truly interesting is that the legal counsel for iDownload/iSearch 
indicates that there is a "lively debate" going on on the internet about 
whether or not their program is spyware or not.

Maybe I'm not looking in the same places, but I have never seen any 
debate regarding the classification of these programs, at least not a 
lively one.
As for my own experience, I've witnessed iSearch/iDownload packages 
being installed on systems during adware/spyware infestations.  Only one 
conclusion can be gained from that:  You guys are on the right side of 
this argument and these people need to be opposed.

Their assertions are laughable.

               -Barry


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