Message-ID: <20031104001103.2875b7eb.michael@bluesuperman.com>
From: michael at bluesuperman.com (Michael Gale)
Subject: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and tr
 ansition planning

Hello Duncan,

	I completely agree with the comment about the shop -- it should not matter what distro as long as they are all working the same way.

I have to disagree with rpms thought -- I like slack's package management tool. pkgtool which has installpkg, removepkg and upgradepkg.

I have run a variety of Unix systems, most of them for real time voice recording. I used to work for Bell Canade and looked after there 25+ unix systems. I did not set them up -- I was just hired to look after them and maintain them.

I was just using hotmail as an example -- since there servers should be handling a large load.

Anyways -- thanks for the reply - time for my nappy ;)

Michael.


On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:29:25 +1000
Duncan Lindley <duncan.lindley@...ginblue.com.au> wrote:

> > I have worked in BIG SHOPS thank you very much and you know what. BIG
> SHOPS - don't use Red Hat.
> 
> I've worked in a few, they all ran/run RedHat. Occasioanlly some debian user
> would try to preach it to us, but then if your only willing to run
> <whatever> distro you certainly won't be welcomed on my team, I'm happy to
> work in a slackware or debian shop, as long as were all working the same
> way.
> 
> > The reason slackware is a better server class distro then RH is because of
> slackware's simplicity. 
> 
> Mabye if there was a best. Slackwares ok, I'm really looking forward to
> fedora.. More contributed stuff.. Power to the people! I'm ahppy to manage
> my own packages, rpm is easy as.
> 
> > I have played with the Red Hat install and have worked on automating it --
> ya -- the RH auto install feature is to very restrictive. With slack -- it
> is so much easier to write custom install scripts.
> 
> Vim /root/anaconda-ks.cfg ... theres your auto install script from your
> anaconda install. Google for kickstart.
> 
> > Try going from RH 6 to RH 9 -- all of a sudden that directory where you
> config files were -- ya is not there any more.
> 
> I ran upgrades from 6.1 to the 9 beta, they all worked ok. If your trusting
> your servers to just work after you just insert a cd I think you better get
> an admin that pays attention.
> 
> > Oh -- did I mention that slackware is the most Unix like distro available.
> There is a reason that hotmail is > running on FreeBSD and NOT Red Hat 
> 
> HPUX and Solaris share a great deal more similarities to RedHat than
> Slackware. Do you even run any commercial unix servers? How many other up to
> date commercial unicies that are popular run BSD init scripts? I wouldn't
> call Hotmail a varied and diverse enterprise with multiple arch's either.
> 
> I think you need to change your nappy.. Its all linux. Theres no need to pat
> yourself on the back, or patronise those that don't choose the same distro.
> RPM is fantastic for package management, you can even install it on
> slack/frisbee/solaris :) 
> 
> -Dunc
> 
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