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Date: Thu Dec 15 18:29:03 2005
From: phantom at h07.org (Enrico Kern)
Subject: A CALL FOR FULL-DISCLOSURE TO BECOME A MODERATED
	LIST

forget it,

we discussed this a few weeks ago, most of the guys on this list just love 
to get spam and bullshit. The one side says "well yeah omg its no 
full-disclosure anymore with moderation" (penguin fucker style) and the 
others want the trash sorted out.

Well from my point of view a moderated list will help to enhance the 
quality on full-disclosure, moderation doesnt mean that full-disclosure of 
a vulnerability isnt posslible anymore (hello wtf is wrong with you? we 
just want the trash sorted out).

Actually Full-Disclosure lost so much of the art and quality it had in the 
past, its just sad. "omg omg why do you read FD if you dont like it" 
replys are wrong here, Full-Disclosure is still a great list, but its full 
of trash lately.

What about making a second full-disclosure list with moderated content 
(sorting out the kids) of the original list?

------------------->
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." (Rich Cook)

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Christoph Gruber wrote:

> On Thursday 15 December 2005 17:16 uber@...h.com wrote:
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS MY DEEP SUPPORT FOR THIS IDEA.  MAKING
>> THE LIST MODERATED WOULD REALLY HELP MY JOB AS A SECURITY
>> RESEARCHER.  I COULD MAKE QUICKER, MORE WELL INFORMED CHOICES IN MY
>> DAY TO DAY TASKS OF PEN TESTING LEGITIMATELY.  I WILL ONLY GET THE
>> GOOD STUFF AND NONE OF THIS PISSING CONTEST WHICH IS KILLING THIS
>> LIST.  MODERATING WOULD MAKE THE LIST MUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL AND
>> WOULD BRING IT ONE STEP ABOVE SECURITY FOCUS.
>>
>> ONCE AGAIN.  I AM 150% FOR THE MODERATION OF FULL-DISCLOSURE.
>
> I am 200% for the repairing of your caps-lock-key.
>
> -- 
> Christoph Gruber
> "If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." Philip Zimmermann
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