Message-ID: <8a6b8e350810021019u42d371b1sdbf514d84c9463e9@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:19:41 -0700
From: "James Matthews" <nytrokiss@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Comments on: Senate bill sets guidelines for
	cybersecurity center

I like the way you link to the wikipedia version of false.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:56 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:

> $30 million to protect themselves against a script kid who enters
> their systems with blank passwords!!! ha ha ha. Gary Mckinnon is the
> nearest they've got to an *alleged* cyber terrorist. Marcus Sachs and
> his satellite communications outage claim and bgp disruption , bull
> shit propaganda, scare-mongering, false pretencing bullshit
> propaganda, just to get $30 million, they'll be sitting their in the
> control center once its all setup and  think to themselves, "now
> what?", "I think we've been had by marcus sachs", "there are no cyber
> terrorists, except these lamers on zone-h". "You mean we paid $30
> million to protect ourselves against a bunch of script kids on
> zone-h?", "looks like we've been had!", "but what about islamic
> terrorists bringing down satellite communications and bgp
> disruption?", "oh, that was just made up bullshit by marcus sachs to
> get control of "cyber"... "in reality, we're sitting in a $30 million
> control center to monitor zone-h defacers, and low level DDoS attacks
> against scientology". "ha ha, yeah, looks like we've been fucking had,
> and we've got a presidential directive for this bullshit?", "yeah,
> looks like it bro"... "we'll need to phone call the CIA, to do another
> estonia, georgia though, towards the end of the next fiscal year, to
> make sure our leader Marcus Sachs, continues to get funding and
> power." , "we'll just repeat the same bullshit we gave them in 2008
> about islamist terrorists". "I don't know what we'll do if obama,
> mccain decide they want to come take a tour of the cyber center and
> see what the money is really being spent on" "yeah bro, the game will
> be up then, we'll just have to put metasploit and nmap up on the main
> screen and kid onto them we're monitoring a plot to take down
> satellite communications, they'll buy that, they won't know the
> difference." "yeah bro, looks like marcus sachs has got it all worked
> out".
> "as long as we're getting paid good wages, im not complaining" "yeah
> bro, we'll go along with the story, we're getting paid enough by sachs
> to keep the misrepresentation of the facts going.", "remember though
> the CIA said hackers had darkened cities.", "oh that was just more
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3867 bullshit by sachs, to
> influence the media... and get the $30 million", "ha ha, i thought it
> was real too, at least securityfocus
> http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/666 made it sound real.", "nah bro
> all of it, all of it was false pretencing bullshit by sachs and
> cronies, we're just here to monitor zone-h...", "no way, but--but gadi
> evron and estonia....", "nah bro, all bullshit false flag pretencing
> bullshit", "back to work then on actually entering passswords then to
> our .mil and monitoring these zone-h'ers...and 4chan'ers...", "i
> wonder who's pocket the spare $29 million of $30 million is going to
> then?" "donno bro, i just donno, probably to fund another estonia,
> georgia, or darkened city speech! to keep this whole thing floating
> and sounding believable", "ha, ha, yeah, i can't believe they told us
> to send out that fake obama sex scandal spam though,", "yeah, i don't
> think we should talk about that, its a classified secret"...."it was a
> good way to get the attention of obama,mccain though", "yeah bro,
> sweet job".
>
> Dictionary: false pretense
>
> "False representation of fact or circumstance, calculated to mislead."
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/false-pretenses
>
> appearance, show — pretending that something is the case in order to
> make a good impression
> make-believe — the enactment of a pretense
> affectation, mannerism, pose — a deliberate pretense or exaggerated display
> masquerade — making a false outward show
>
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/pretense-pretence-pretending-simulation-feigning
>
> Marcus Sachs on Youtube, talking about false pretencing the magnitude
> of the threat to get his $30 million and presidential directive:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:32 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> > Someone has lied to someone to get $30 million:
> >
> > This is when an individual intentionally makes lies to fraudulently
> > receive money or goods.
> > www.attorneykennugent.com/library/f.html
> >
> > False pretenses or obtaining property by false pretenses is a common
> > law crime in the United States, where its statutory forms handle
> > situations ...
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False pretenses
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretenses
> >
> > (law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false representation
> > and obtaining property as a result of that misrepresentation
> > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
> >
> > representation of untrue facts
> > en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false pretense
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&defl=en&q=define:false+pretense&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
> >
> > Obtaining property be fraudulent means
> > www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Dictionary/glossary.asp
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretences
> >
> > A false representation of a past or present fact made by a person who
> > knows it is false and intends that it be acted upon;
> > scromett.com/LegalDefinitions.html
> >
> > false pretense: (law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false
> > representation and obtaining property as a result of that
> > misrepresentation
> > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretence
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> >> by n3td3v October 1, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
> >>
> >> $30 million to protect themselves against a false pretence? cyber
> >> security doesn't need that much investment, the folks ramping up the
> >> idea of a real life die hard 4 are living in cloud cuckoo land. there
> >> are no cyber terrorists out there, there is no threat to national
> >> security. people like marcus sachs want you to believe there is, so he
> >> can get hold of power and money in washington, but its all fantasy
> >> make-believe threats that aren't actually there in reality.
> >>
> >>
> http://news.cnet.com/8601-13578_3-10056047.html?communityId=2071&targetCommunityId=2071&blogId=38&tag=mncol#5012096
> >>
> >
>
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