Message-ID: <4b6ee9310810020756s690cf73clf5ec4cb3e5788231@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:56:17 +0100
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Comments on: Senate bill sets guidelines for
	cybersecurity center

$30 million to protect themselves against a script kid who enters
their systems with blank passwords!!! ha ha ha. Gary Mckinnon is the
nearest they've got to an *alleged* cyber terrorist. Marcus Sachs and
his satellite communications outage claim and bgp disruption , bull
shit propaganda, scare-mongering, false pretencing bullshit
propaganda, just to get $30 million, they'll be sitting their in the
control center once its all setup and  think to themselves, "now
what?", "I think we've been had by marcus sachs", "there are no cyber
terrorists, except these lamers on zone-h". "You mean we paid $30
million to protect ourselves against a bunch of script kids on
zone-h?", "looks like we've been had!", "but what about islamic
terrorists bringing down satellite communications and bgp
disruption?", "oh, that was just made up bullshit by marcus sachs to
get control of "cyber"... "in reality, we're sitting in a $30 million
control center to monitor zone-h defacers, and low level DDoS attacks
against scientology". "ha ha, yeah, looks like we've been fucking had,
and we've got a presidential directive for this bullshit?", "yeah,
looks like it bro"... "we'll need to phone call the CIA, to do another
estonia, georgia though, towards the end of the next fiscal year, to
make sure our leader Marcus Sachs, continues to get funding and
power." , "we'll just repeat the same bullshit we gave them in 2008
about islamist terrorists". "I don't know what we'll do if obama,
mccain decide they want to come take a tour of the cyber center and
see what the money is really being spent on" "yeah bro, the game will
be up then, we'll just have to put metasploit and nmap up on the main
screen and kid onto them we're monitoring a plot to take down
satellite communications, they'll buy that, they won't know the
difference." "yeah bro, looks like marcus sachs has got it all worked
out".
"as long as we're getting paid good wages, im not complaining" "yeah
bro, we'll go along with the story, we're getting paid enough by sachs
to keep the misrepresentation of the facts going.", "remember though
the CIA said hackers had darkened cities.", "oh that was just more
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3867 bullshit by sachs, to
influence the media... and get the $30 million", "ha ha, i thought it
was real too, at least securityfocus
http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/666 made it sound real.", "nah bro
all of it, all of it was false pretencing bullshit by sachs and
cronies, we're just here to monitor zone-h...", "no way, but--but gadi
evron and estonia....", "nah bro, all bullshit false flag pretencing
bullshit", "back to work then on actually entering passswords then to
our .mil and monitoring these zone-h'ers...and 4chan'ers...", "i
wonder who's pocket the spare $29 million of $30 million is going to
then?" "donno bro, i just donno, probably to fund another estonia,
georgia, or darkened city speech! to keep this whole thing floating
and sounding believable", "ha, ha, yeah, i can't believe they told us
to send out that fake obama sex scandal spam though,", "yeah, i don't
think we should talk about that, its a classified secret"...."it was a
good way to get the attention of obama,mccain though", "yeah bro,
sweet job".

Dictionary: false pretense

"False representation of fact or circumstance, calculated to mislead."

http://www.answers.com/topic/false-pretenses

appearance, show — pretending that something is the case in order to
make a good impression
make-believe — the enactment of a pretense
affectation, mannerism, pose — a deliberate pretense or exaggerated display
masquerade — making a false outward show

http://www.answers.com/topic/pretense-pretence-pretending-simulation-feigning

Marcus Sachs on Youtube, talking about false pretencing the magnitude
of the threat to get his $30 million and presidential directive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:32 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> Someone has lied to someone to get $30 million:
>
> This is when an individual intentionally makes lies to fraudulently
> receive money or goods.
> www.attorneykennugent.com/library/f.html
>
> False pretenses or obtaining property by false pretenses is a common
> law crime in the United States, where its statutory forms handle
> situations ...
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False pretenses
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretenses
>
> (law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false representation
> and obtaining property as a result of that misrepresentation
> wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> representation of untrue facts
> en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false pretense
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&defl=en&q=define:false+pretense&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
>
> Obtaining property be fraudulent means
> www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Dictionary/glossary.asp
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretences
>
> A false representation of a past or present fact made by a person who
> knows it is false and intends that it be acted upon;
> scromett.com/LegalDefinitions.html
>
> false pretense: (law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false
> representation and obtaining property as a result of that
> misrepresentation
> wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretence
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>> by n3td3v October 1, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
>>
>> $30 million to protect themselves against a false pretence? cyber
>> security doesn't need that much investment, the folks ramping up the
>> idea of a real life die hard 4 are living in cloud cuckoo land. there
>> are no cyber terrorists out there, there is no threat to national
>> security. people like marcus sachs want you to believe there is, so he
>> can get hold of power and money in washington, but its all fantasy
>> make-believe threats that aren't actually there in reality.
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8601-13578_3-10056047.html?communityId=2071&targetCommunityId=2071&blogId=38&tag=mncol#5012096
>>
>

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