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Message-ID: <4b6ee9310810011732k47447708m515420564cecb6b6@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:32:34 +0100
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Comments on: Senate bill sets guidelines for
	cybersecurity center

Someone has lied to someone to get $30 million:

This is when an individual intentionally makes lies to fraudulently
receive money or goods.
www.attorneykennugent.com/library/f.html

False pretenses or obtaining property by false pretenses is a common
law crime in the United States, where its statutory forms handle
situations ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False pretenses

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretenses

(law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false representation
and obtaining property as a result of that misrepresentation
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

representation of untrue facts
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false pretense

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&defl=en&q=define:false+pretense&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Obtaining property be fraudulent means
www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Dictionary/glossary.asp

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretences

A false representation of a past or present fact made by a person who
knows it is false and intends that it be acted upon;
scromett.com/LegalDefinitions.html

false pretense: (law) an offense involving intent to defraud and false
representation and obtaining property as a result of that
misrepresentation
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Afalse+pretence

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> by n3td3v October 1, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
>
> $30 million to protect themselves against a false pretence? cyber
> security doesn't need that much investment, the folks ramping up the
> idea of a real life die hard 4 are living in cloud cuckoo land. there
> are no cyber terrorists out there, there is no threat to national
> security. people like marcus sachs want you to believe there is, so he
> can get hold of power and money in washington, but its all fantasy
> make-believe threats that aren't actually there in reality.
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8601-13578_3-10056047.html?communityId=2071&targetCommunityId=2071&blogId=38&tag=mncol#5012096
>

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