Message-ID: <4b6ee9310901101951i76b0f63fn3f31cb4643e06716@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:51:34 +0000
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Full Disclosure of What ?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Gomer Stackseg
<faultintolerant@...il.com> wrote:
> G'day to the FD list:
>
> Security and vulnerability research ?  It would really be of great
> benefit to turn this list into something more than it currently is.
> There is a wealth of very intelligent, creative and humourous people
> who post to this list, and I enjoy what they have to say but there is
> a lot of repetitive tedium.  There is also a wealth of stupidity that
> shifts the fulcrum from center.
>
> I find the interplay between netdev and ureleet to be a defining
> element of inanity, misanthropy and sheer waste of bandwidth.  Who
> cares about the pissing between what appears to be two colossal noise
> generating clowns ?  I know this will piss someone off and I'll look
> forward to the high-end feedback I will receive.  I am not _trolling_
> but making clear a premise to get back to what this list is about.
> Maybe there are others who are in the security arena who feel the
> same, who believe in full disclosure, and are professionals with
> professional reputations and (significant) contributions to the
> security and vulnerability research world.  Blackhats, Whitehats and
> Grayhats all have something of great value to contribute when
> presented in an intelligent environment.
>
> I am mystified by this omnipresent Andrew Wallace / netdev persona.
> You say you will "go away" (for the betterment of all) then you come
> right back like a spoiled child.  What an infantile personality. I
> hope you realize that you absolutely foster the whole "living in your
> mother's basement" scenario.   I have always believed strongly that
> there are certain people who are placed on earth as examples to others
> of what never to become. This person fills that requirement in a
> superlative fashion.  What an idiot to make statements about working
> for an intelligence agency in an abysmal effort to inflate his
> (absence of) self-worth.  What a pathetic and delusional psychological
> profile this presents.  Again, this is the play of a little baby in a
> little baby's world order, where he commands an army of 4500 straw
> sycophants who are transfixed at his elemental presence.
>
> In any event, I hope that an attitude that fosters learning and
> intelligent discussion will eclipse the "security cut-and-paste
> carnival" attitude I see that prevails.  Although I see this
> attenuated when the threats of being sued arose.  What an epically
> funny thread that was !
>
> But in the mean time, please continue to rant about the trivial and
> cut-and-paste / link current events for us, and speak of "secret
> intelligence agent" escapades  I think there is hope that this will
> change when people get serious about a profoundly serious topic that
> affects everyone.
>
> Cheers to all !
>
> Gomer Stackseg

I don't know why people treat me the way they do its something the
list has come to live with that everything I do and say is
discredited.

All I can do is keep going and wait for their balls to drop then
they'll realise i'm a real person who isn't delusional.

Thanks!

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