full-disclosure - Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

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Message-ID: <CAJtJjZsLOcAS8FXqdzC3ggsb6+i_q2_W6raXObUdyuTV=BtD3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:16:49 +0100
From: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>
To: secn3t@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Going back to my own example, say all three are first world countries, and A
and C are in the EU whilst B is the US. All nations involved have good
diplomatic relations and preexisting extradition treaties, and to add
interest to it, lets say the LEO in B and C helped the investigation. The
criomes would be non-financial, but say, large scale hacks and such. I will
use Jake Davis's case as a "canary case" for this though...

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:31 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:

> Ah, the legend of the mailing-list himself, has spoken.
> not knowing you, for all i have seen, your a pathetic sack of rubbish, and
> really, what we are discussing, if you had ANY clue, wich obv dont, is
> simply how far our own freedom is going.
> You are an idiot.
> Have a nice day.
> xd
>
>
>
> On 2 October 2011 08:45, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +1000, xD 0x41 said:
>> >
>> >> As you also said, murder is a no brainer in any place...well, maybe not
>> iraq
>> >> or afghanistan just yet :P lol..
>> >
>> > Iraq, for all its problems, is still a place with a somewhat functional
>> > judicial system. The court system may be broken, but you in general
>> *will* at
>> > least appear in a courtroom with a judge and be pronounced guilty before
>> you're
>> > punished.
>> >
>> > I was actually thinking more along the lines of  totally failed states
>> such as
>> > Somalia, Sudan, or the contested parts of Afghanistan, where you can't
>> be tried
>> > for murder because there isn't a court to try you *in*.
>> >
>>
>> Have you not grown old of talking to children on mailing lists?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Andrew Wallace
>>
>> Independent consultant
>>
>> www.n3td3v.org.uk
>>
>
>
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