full-disclosure - Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

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Message-ID: <CALCvwp6FA0mispMSP5333G3zjSu9J8=Qr5LL2C9MGsvHJNW83A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:34:55 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Could just lok at the recent david cecil case here in .au.
It does say alot, because he did breach some bigger networks.. and he was
committing 'smaller' scale fraud but, still fraud, however, his main problem
was what he did to a governemnt site, wich was deface it for personal gain,
not profit.
It is the latest case wich would be valid of this.
still.. intresting infos... good stuff.
xd


On 3 October 2011 19:16, Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>wrote:

> Going back to my own example, say all three are first world countries, and
> A and C are in the EU whilst B is the US. All nations involved have good
> diplomatic relations and preexisting extradition treaties, and to add
> interest to it, lets say the LEO in B and C helped the investigation. The
> criomes would be non-financial, but say, large scale hacks and such. I will
> use Jake Davis's case as a "canary case" for this though...
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:31 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah, the legend of the mailing-list himself, has spoken.
>> not knowing you, for all i have seen, your a pathetic sack of rubbish, and
>> really, what we are discussing, if you had ANY clue, wich obv dont, is
>> simply how far our own freedom is going.
>> You are an idiot.
>> Have a nice day.
>> xd
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 October 2011 08:45, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +1000, xD 0x41 said:
>>> >
>>> >> As you also said, murder is a no brainer in any place...well, maybe
>>> not iraq
>>> >> or afghanistan just yet :P lol..
>>> >
>>> > Iraq, for all its problems, is still a place with a somewhat functional
>>> > judicial system. The court system may be broken, but you in general
>>> *will* at
>>> > least appear in a courtroom with a judge and be pronounced guilty
>>> before you're
>>> > punished.
>>> >
>>> > I was actually thinking more along the lines of  totally failed states
>>> such as
>>> > Somalia, Sudan, or the contested parts of Afghanistan, where you can't
>>> be tried
>>> > for murder because there isn't a court to try you *in*.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Have you not grown old of talking to children on mailing lists?
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Andrew Wallace
>>>
>>> Independent consultant
>>>
>>> www.n3td3v.org.uk
>>>
>>
>>
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