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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:38:36 -0400
From: valdis.kletnieks@...edu
To: Ian Hayes <cthulhucalling@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
	Against Iran

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:48:33 -0400, Ian Hayes said:
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:40 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:43 PM,  <valdis.kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> >> One could equally well read that as "We're fed up and about to
> >> pound North Korea even further back into the Stone Age".
> >
> > With Stuxnet, it was lucky nobody was seriously injured.
> >
> > You cannot condone such weapons Valdis, or your hat will start to turn grey,
> > black.
> 
> Stuxnet may not have killed anyone, but several Iranian nuclear
> scientists were assassinated in conjunction with Stuxnet's release.

Please don't feed the troll - the only way he can post to full-disclosure is
if somebody quotes him in.

The worst part is that Andrew's reading comprehension is as good as
always - I wasn't commenting on Stuxnet, but the move of naval forces
to the Pacific.  China isn't the only reason we might want a naval task
force over there.

And I never said I condoned it, merely pointed out alternate interpretations.

The funny thing is that Andrew was going on for a *long* time that there
is no such thing as cyber-warfare - when in fact it was going on while he
was denying it.


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