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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:00:35 -0600
From: Jordon Bedwell <envygeeks@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: Full Disclosure List <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Where are you guys standing re: the (full)
	disclosure

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Gary Baribault <gary@...ibault.net> wrote:
>> Rather harsh don't you think? I'm all for OSS but I have expenses and
>> need to make money. Yes M$ makes money, but I think their ethical just
>> as much as any other company .. is IBM ethical? Is HP ethical? Is Dell
>> (the company) ethical? They all are to some degree.
> Try Apple. They withhold security updates until the press release for
> their latest iOS version. See, for example, the hundred of fixes in
> https://lists.apple.com/archives/security-announce/2012/Sep/msg00003.html.
>
> At least Microsoft patches on a regular basis.

You seem to be under the delusion that Microsoft and even Open Source
projects don't also hold off on announcements until fix release, which
is the case, most of the time.

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