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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:24:50 -0400
From: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@...il.com>
To: Kazuya Mio <k-mio@...jp.nec.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] e4defrag: output blocks per extent by -c option
2009/10/6 Kazuya Mio <k-mio@...jp.nec.com>:
> 2009/10/03 0:28, Greg Freemyer wrote::
>> 2009/10/1 Kazuya Mio <k-mio@...jp.nec.com>:
>>> 2009/10/01 3:28, Greg Freemyer wrote::
>>>> 2009/9/30 Kazuya Mio <k-mio@...jp.nec.com>:
>>>>> e4defrag with -c option outputs "ratio" that means the levels of
>>>>> fragmentation. However, it's difficult for users to understand, so we will
>>>>> use blocks per extent instead of ratio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before:
>>>>> # e4defrag -c /mnt/mp1/file
>>>>> <File> now/best ratio
>>>>> /mnt/mp1/file 14/1 0.01%
>>>>>
>>>>> Total/best extents 14/1
>>>>> Fragmentation ratio 0.01%
>>>>> Fragmentation score 0.10
>>>>> [0-30 no problem: 31-55 a little bit fragmented: 55- needs defrag]
>>>>> This file(/mnt/mp1/file) does not need defragmentation.
>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>> After:
>>>>> # e4defrag -c /mnt/mp1/file
>>>>> <File> now/best blk/ext
>>>>> /mnt/mp1/file 14/1 7142
>>>>>
>>>>> Total/best extents 14/1
>>>>> Average blocks per extent 7142
>>>>> Fragmentation score 0
>>>>> [0-30 no problem: 31-55 a little bit fragmented: 55- needs defrag]
>>>>> This file(/mnt/mp1/file) does not need defragmentation.
>>>>> Done.
>>>> RFC
>>>>
>>>> If we are going go that far (which I like), how about adding the avg
>>>> extent size in bytes. (ie. 7142 * blocksize I assume).
>>>>
>>>> Also a note about the max blocks / extent might be good.
>>>>
>>>> ie. Add a more or less hard coded line
>>>> Ext4 max blocks per extent 32,768 (128MiB)
>>> Your ideas sound good. How about the following output image?
>>>
>>> # e4defrag -c /mnt/mp1/file
>>> <File> now/best KB/ext
>>> /mnt/mp1/file 14/1 4000
>>>
>>> Total/best extents 14/1
>>> Min bytes per extent 1024 KB
>>> Max bytes per extent 20489 KB
>>> Average bytes per extent 4000 KB
>>> Fragmentation score 0
>>> [0-30 no problem: 31-55 a little bit fragmented: 55- needs defrag]
>>> This file(/mnt/mp1/file) does not need defragmentation.
>>> Done.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kazuya Mio
>>
>> I was thinking more of the theoretical max bytes per extent, not the
>> largest extent found in the actual file.
>>
>> I say this because most users of e4defrag won't know what perfection
>> is, so they won't know if and when they have come close if they don't
>> know what the ultimate goal is.
>>
>> Specifically, think of a admin hosting a few virtual machines where
>> the virtual disks are ext4 files. They could easily be 100's of GB so
>> they may think even 128MB / extent can be improved on, even though
>> they have already achieved the theoretical max.
>>
>> Greg
>
> I see. But I think e4defrag doesn't always need to print logical max
> bytes per extent. So, I will add it to e4defrag man page instead of
> standard output. What do you think?
>
> Regards,
>
> Kazuya Mio
I had not thought about the man page for some reason, but it would
satisfy my concern.
Greg
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