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Date:	Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:34:04 -0400
From:	lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen)
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
Cc:	Tomas Neme <lacrymology@...il.com>, Andrew McKay <amckay@...rs.ca>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 01:23:01AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> And then the user who uses such features in ways not permitted by the
> copyright holders are committing a crime.  They can be prosecuted by
> the copyright holders and convicted of the crime.

Well we already clearly know the content providers in the US don't trust
anyone else, and certainly don't think just using copyright laws to sue
people who violate copyright is enough.  No they want to put all sorts
of things in place to try to prevent it from even being possible to
violate copyright in the first place.  They don't believe in innocent
until proven guilty at all.

> That TiVo can somehow become liable for this just shows how broken the
> legal system in the US is.  It's like making a knife manufacturer
> liable for a killing using a knife they made, just because the knife
> didn't have technical measures intended to prevent the knife from
> being used to kill people.

So much for "Land of the free". :(

--
Len Sorensen
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