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Message-ID: <20070807214947.GB4413@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:49:47 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Cc:	trenn@...e.de, Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Knut Petersen <Knut_Petersen@...nline.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mjg59@...f.ucam.org, vojtech@...e.cz
Subject: Re: 2.6.22 regression: thermal trip points

On Tue 2007-08-07 14:58:45, Len Brown wrote:
> On Monday 06 August 2007 05:55, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > For the
> > > upstream kernel, I think it is more appropriate to expose and fix
> > > the fundamental problems.  For distro kernels, I'm less concerned
> > > if you hide bugs instead of fixing them.
> > 
> > This is okay as long as you are willing to work around the fundamental
> > problems in kernel. You are unable to _fix_ them. They are broken
> > BIOSes.
> 
> The thing Linux needs to figure out is why Windows doesn't
> get confused by what Linux claims to be broken BIOS.

Why do you assume that Windows work? Yes, they probably will not have
'machine runs at 50% speed' problem, but I'd be very surprised if
critical shutdown  worked properly on more than 90% of notebooks....

> So far I have one live sighting to be addressed by
> the upstream kernel (from Knut).  I'm certainly looking
> forward to the 2nd live sighting...

Ok, I guess I should steal that old xe3 I was talking about...

Vojtech, could I have that machine from table football room for a few
experiments? I keep using it as counterexample.
							Pavel
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