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Message-ID: <20110922181313.GG5173@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Date:	Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:13:13 +0100
From:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To:	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...retlab.ca>
Cc:	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dia.com>,
	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@...gle.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	Erik Gilling <konkers@...roid.com>, linux-i2c@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Dilan Lee <dilee@...dia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] i2c-tegra: Use the suspend_noirq/resume_noirq not
 suspend/resume

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:03:35PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:51:32AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:

> > * Implement an explicit dependency management system within the kernel for
> >   device suspend/resume, such that I2C bus would not be suspended before
> >   the sound card that requires it. It is reported that Linus rejected this
> >   proposal since he wanted suspend ordering to be based on probe ordering.

> This really should be revisted.  That was in the context of full
> system suspend, but we're now in a world of runtime suspend which
> absolutely does need dependency tracking or reference counting to get
> the ordering right.

FWIW this was one of the bigger issues in the PM miniconference in Santa
Rosa, though a lot of the discission involved explaining the issues to
some of the x86 guys and there wasn't mssive progress on solutions.

> > * Enhance device probing such that the ASoC sound card device could defer
> >   its probing until all required resources were available. This would
> >   then cause the overall sound card suspend to occur at an appropriate early
> >   time. Grant Likely was reported to have been working towards this goal.

> Yes, I'll send you my current patch for you to look at.  One of the
> engineers from Linaro is going to be pushing that patch set forward.
> However, I don't know if it helps with this problem because I believe
> that the suspend order is based on the implicit probe order of
> devices, but my patch allows drivers to cause the probe order to get
> rearranged at runtime.  I don't believe there is a global list showing
> the order that devices successfully got probed, but I may be wrong
> here.

Yes, I'm not convinced it'll change anything here.  Though I guess it
should be a simple matter of programming to move devices around the list
depending on when they probe.
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