linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?

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Message-ID: <CAA7C2qgz1GYhVwXwiO5dt09+Mv0719tfCBmK7ud07RZ2VDNxTw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:14:06 -0800
From:	VDR User <user.vdr@...il.com>
To:	Walter Van Eetvelt <walter@....eetvelt.be>
Cc:	Andreas Oberritter <obi@...uxtv.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, HoP <jpetrous@...il.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver
 because of worrying about possible misusage?

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Walter Van Eetvelt
<walter@....eetvelt.be> wrote:
>> So you could finally use VDR as a server/client setup using vtuner,
>> right? With full OSD, timer, etc? Yes, I'm aware that streamdev
>> exists. It was horrible when I tried it last (a long time ago) and I
>> understand it's gotten better. But it's not a suitable replacement for
>> a real server/client setup. It sounds like using vtuner, this would
>> finally be possible and since Klaus has no intention of ever
>> modernizing VDR into server/client (that I'm aware of), it's also the
>> only suitable option as well.
>>
>> Or am I wrong about anything?  If not, I know several users who would
>> like to use this, myself included.
>
> This is the question on how you provide (live)tv content to multiple users
> and devices.
> And I think this goes beyond the simple "second PC in the house" where you
> want to watch TV or recordings.  How can you watch streams from your DVB
> device on your small screen Mobile phone/tablet?  Or stream over the
> internet and watch your last night recording when commuting in the train?
> Some commercial solutions are already available for some scenario's.  Also
> free software solutions support for some scenario's, but I think still too
> limited.
>
> With that in mind, for me the future is for a client server combination
> that can do proper live TV and recording streaming.
> And technically, a virtual driver is not bringing better user experience
> in the long term I think.  On the contrary, some users would use the
> vtunerc to fill in some of their needs.  This could bring developers to
> work less on client/server application supporting a broader range of use
> cases.

While I agree with your more broad view of the issue, I specifically
talked about VDR.  AFAIK Klaus has no intention of adding true
server/client support to VDR, so for VDR users, this sounds like it
could be a working solution without the strict limitations of
streamdev.
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