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Message-ID: <20120117101447.GF7180@jl-vm1.vm.bytemark.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:14:47 +0000
From:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>
To:	Colin Walters <walters@...bum.org>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] Allow unprivileged chroot when safe

Colin Walters wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 16:37 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> 
> > Because chroot is an easy way to break out of chroot jail, CAP_SYS_ADMIN
> > is still required if the caller is already chrooted.
> 
> This part is pretty gross.  It means it won't work for stuff like
> containers (systemd-nspawn etc.) and furthermore

> I have plans that involve running OS trees inside a chroot, and this
> would obviously not work for that.

Indeed, I do run many of my machines inside a chroot.
The real filesystem has:

    /distro/that
    /distro/newer
    /distro/this

instead of partitions.  I'm chroot'd and fully booted up in
/distro/this, although I can see files in the others and I might run a
few things from them as well.

This isn't "userland chroot", it's the top level of the process tree:
/distro/this/sbin/init.  It would be a shame if it behaved differently
just because "it's a chroot".

-- Jamie
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