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Date:	Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:02:31 +0900
From:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@...are.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@...nok.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@...nel.org>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove compressed copy from zram in-memory

Hi Andrew,

On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 02:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  8 Apr 2013 15:01:02 +0900 Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Swap subsystem does lazy swap slot free with expecting the page
> > would be swapped out again so we can avoid unnecessary write.
> 
> Is that correct?  How can it save a write?

Correct.

The add_to_swap makes the page dirty and we must pageout only if the page is
dirty. If a anon page is already charged into swapcache, we skip writeout
the page in shrink_page_list, then just remove the page from swapcache and
free it by __remove_mapping.

I did received same question multiple time so it would be good idea to
write down it in vmscan.c somewhere.

> 
> > But the problem in in-memory swap(ex, zram) is that it consumes
> > memory space until vm_swap_full(ie, used half of all of swap device)
> > condition meet. It could be bad if we use multiple swap device,
> > small in-memory swap and big storage swap or in-memory swap alone.
> > 
> > This patch makes swap subsystem free swap slot as soon as swap-read
> > is completed and make the swapcache page dirty so the page should
> > be written out the swap device to reclaim it.
> > It means we never lose it.
> 
> >From my reading of the patch, that isn't how it works?  It changed
> end_swap_bio_read() to call zram_slot_free_notify(), which appears to
> free the underlying compressed page.  I have a feeling I'm hopelessly
> confused.

You understand right totally.
Selecting swap slot in my description was totally miss.
Need to rewrite the description.

> 
> > --- a/mm/page_io.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_io.c
> > @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/buffer_head.h>
> >  #include <linux/writeback.h>
> >  #include <linux/frontswap.h>
> > +#include <linux/blkdev.h>
> >  #include <asm/pgtable.h>
> >  
> >  static struct bio *get_swap_bio(gfp_t gfp_flags,
> > @@ -81,8 +82,30 @@ void end_swap_bio_read(struct bio *bio, int err)
> >  				iminor(bio->bi_bdev->bd_inode),
> >  				(unsigned long long)bio->bi_sector);
> >  	} else {
> > +		/*
> > +		 * There is no reason to keep both uncompressed data and
> > +		 * compressed data in memory.
> > +		 */
> > +		struct swap_info_struct *sis;
> > +
> >  		SetPageUptodate(page);
> > +		sis = page_swap_info(page);
> > +		if (sis->flags & SWP_BLKDEV) {
> > +			struct gendisk *disk = sis->bdev->bd_disk;
> > +			if (disk->fops->swap_slot_free_notify) {
> > +				swp_entry_t entry;
> > +				unsigned long offset;
> > +
> > +				entry.val = page_private(page);
> > +				offset = swp_offset(entry);
> > +
> > +				SetPageDirty(page);
> > +				disk->fops->swap_slot_free_notify(sis->bdev,
> > +						offset);
> > +			}
> > +		}
> >  	}
> > +
> >  	unlock_page(page);
> >  	bio_put(bio);
> 
> The new code is wasted space if CONFIG_BLOCK=n, yes?

CONFIG_SWAP is already dependent on CONFIG_BLOCK.

> 
> Also, what's up with the SWP_BLKDEV test?  zram doesn't support
> SWP_FILE?  Why on earth not?
> 
> Putting swap_slot_free_notify() into block_device_operations seems
> rather wrong.  It precludes zram-over-swapfiles for all time and means
> that other subsystems cannot get notifications for swap slot freeing
> for swapfile-backed swap.

Zram is just pseudo-block device so anyone can format it with any FSes
and swapon a file. In such case, he can't get a benefit from
swap_slot_free_notify. But I think it's not a severe problem because
there is no reason to use a file-swap on zram. If anyone want to use it,
I'd like to know the reason. If it's reasonable, we have to rethink a
wheel and it's another story, IMHO.


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Minchan Kim
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