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Date:	Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:51:03 -0700
From:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>
Cc:	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andy Whitcroft <apw@...onical.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkpatch: Add warning about submitting patches using
 --file

On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 23:37 +0300, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 12:40:47PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > +WARNING: When using --file mode, do not send patches that just make
> > +whitespace or formatting changes unless more significant changes are
> > +also made for other reasons in another patch.
> > +
> 
> This is a run on sentence.

Suggest alternatives.
I suppose "are also made" could be shortened.

> Also I don't agree with it.  Clean up
> patches are good on their own.

Try getting one past James "stasis" Bottomley.

> There are parts of the kernel which are
> not just in staging where I refuse to look at because it is so bad.

Me too.

> The problem is that people send "clean up" patches which don't clean up
> the code or which make the code worse than the original.

Maybe the only way to learn coding taste is to have
patches rejected.

> All they care
> about is pleasing checkpatch.pl instead of actually thinking about what
> they are doing.  The message should just say something like, "Take a
> step back and think about if this actually improves things for human
> readers."

Maybe.  Suggest better text.


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