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Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUV4R0BK-eKkXeDD9B0pRLJjziUkvXZVvfWmuaK=dv9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 25 Nov 2013 11:12:08 +0100
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>
Cc:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...isc-linux.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@....de>,
	Parisc List <linux-parisc@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/24] parisc/uapi: Use Kbuild logic to provide <asm/types.h>

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 09:55 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> Uapi <asm-generic/types.h> just includes <asm-generic/int-ll64.h>
>
> This really doesn't look like a good idea:  Firstly the default of
> asm-generic/types.h should *not* be int-ll64, because that's for 32 bit
> only and most processors are moving towards 64 bit.  Secondly parisc

In kernelspace, both 32 and 64 bit are ll64.

> currently only has a 32 bit userspace, which is why the file is a simple
> include of int-ll64.h; however, people are working on 64 bit userspace

Sorry, I didn't know you support 32 bit userspace only.

> (albeit very slowly) and that file would then have to change.  If we
> take the file away someone will forget to add the changed file back.

However, is this a "new" 64 bit userspace ABI? If yes, you may want to
consider using ll64 in userspace on 64 bit too, like all "new" 64 bit ports
do (arm64, s390, sparc, tile, x86). Only legacy alpha, ia64, mips and
old ppc use l64.

Or follow the ppc64 road:

/*
 * This is here because we used to use l64 for 64bit powerpc
 * and we don't want to impact user mode with our change to ll64
 * in the kernel.
 *
 * However, some user programs are fine with this.  They can
 * flag __SANE_USERSPACE_TYPES__ to get int-ll64.h here.
 */
#ifndef __KERNEL__
#if !defined(__SANE_USERSPACE_TYPES__) && defined(__powerpc64__)
# include <asm-generic/int-l64.h>
#else
# include <asm-generic/int-ll64.h>
#endif
#endif

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org

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                                -- Linus Torvalds
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