Message-ID: <1411661796.13320.191.camel@snotra.buserror.net>
Date:	Thu, 25 Sep 2014 11:16:36 -0500
From:	Scott Wood <scottwood@...escale.com>
To:	German Rivera <German.Rivera@...escale.com>
CC:	Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@...escale.com>,
	<gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, <arnd@...db.de>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <stuart.yoder@...escale.com>,
	<agraf@...e.de>, <linuxppc-release@...ux.freescale.net>,
	Erez Nir-RM30794 <nir.erez@...escale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] drivers/bus: Added Freescale Management Complex
 APIs

On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 10:44 -0500, German Rivera wrote:
> 
> On 09/24/2014 10:40 PM, Kim Phillips wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:23:59 -0500
> > German Rivera <German.Rivera@...escale.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/23/2014 07:49 PM, Kim Phillips wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:49:39 -0500
> >>> "J. German Rivera" <German.Rivera@...escale.com> wrote:
> >>>> +	mc_io->portal_virt_addr = NULL;
> >>>> +	devm_kfree(mc_io->dev, mc_io);
> >>>
> >>> like I said before, there's really no point in clearing something
> >>> out right before it's freed.
> >>>
> >> I disagree. This can help detect cases of double-freeing.
> >
> > ?  freeing NULL does nothing - it just returns - which doesn't help
> > detect anything.  What's more, the kernel has a memory debugging
> > infrastructure that detects double freeing of the same object.
> I know that, but silently doing nothing when freeing NULL is a bad 
> practice in general, because it hides a bug.

It doesn't hide a bug "in general".  I'm not sure what the relevance is
here, though -- this seems to be about reusing portal_virt_addr as a
debug flag rather than anything to do with actually calling free() on
portal_virt_addr.

> Is the memory debugging infrastructure enabled by default? If so, then
> I would agree with you. If not, we would need to be able to reproduce
> the bug while having memory debugging enabled. This assumes that the
> bug is easy to reproduce. What if it is not easy to reproduce? Having
> "first-failure data capture" checks is useful for helping diagnose bugs
> that are not easy to reproduce.
> 
> In this case, if due to some bug, fsl_destroy_mc_io() is
> called twice for the same mc_io object, the combination of doing
> "mc_io->portal_virt_addr = NULL" and the original "if (WARN_ON",
> that you want removed, would have helped catch the bug on
> "first failure".
> Even removing the "if (WARN_ON)" but keeping the
> "mc_io->portal_virt_addr = NULL" would still help catch the bug
> on "first failure", assuming that the system crashes when calling
> "devm_iounmap(mc_io->dev, NULL);" or at least prints a stack trace.

iounmap of NULL will not crash or print a stack trace.  It is a no-op.

> >>>> +int mc_send_command(struct fsl_mc_io *mc_io, struct mc_command *cmd)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	enum mc_cmd_status status;
> >>>> +	int error;
> >>>> +	unsigned long irqsave_flags = 0;
> >>>> +	unsigned long jiffies_until_timeout =
> >>>> +	    jiffies + MC_CMD_COMPLETION_TIMEOUT_JIFFIES;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	/*
> >>>> +	 * Acquire lock depending on mc_io flags:
> >>>> +	 */
> >>>> +	if (mc_io->flags & FSL_MC_PORTAL_SHARED_BY_INT_HANDLERS) {
> >>>> +		if (mc_io->flags & FSL_MC_PORTAL_SHARED_BY_THREADS)
> >>>> +			spin_lock_irqsave(&mc_io->spinlock, irqsave_flags);
> >>>> +		else
> >>>> +			spin_lock(&mc_io->spinlock);
> >>>> +	} else if (mc_io->flags & FSL_MC_PORTAL_SHARED_BY_THREADS) {
> >>>> +		mutex_lock(&mc_io->mutex);
> >>>> +	}
> >>>
> >>> again, I think we need to drop the coming from h/w IRQ context here
> >>> (SHARED_BY_INT_HANDLERS); there's no IRQ handlers in this
> >>> patchseries, and calling this function from an IRQ handler would be
> >>> prohibitively wasteful, guessing by the udelay and timeout values
> >>> below.
> >>>
> >>> Can we just mutex_lock for now, and unconditionally (no
> >>> SHARED_BY_THREADS check), to protect from nesting?
> >>>
> >> I would still prefer to keep the SHARED_BY_THREADS flag, to give option
> >> of not doing any locking, in cases where the portal used in
> >> mc_send_command() is not shared among concurrent callers
> >
> > how can you guarantee there won't be concurrent callers?  The linux
> > kernel is multithreaded.
> >
> The owner of the portal should know if his/her code can be invoked using 
> the same portal, from multiple threads or not.

Or more generally, whether the caller is responsible for
synchronization.

Would it make sense to simplify by saying the caller is always
responsible for synchronization?

Then again, the management complex is not supposed to be on the
performance critical path, so why not simplify by just always do the
locking here?

> >>>> +	/*
> >>>> +	 * Wait for response from the MC hardware:
> >>>> +	 */
> >>>> +	for (;;) {
> >>>> +		status = mc_read_response(mc_io->portal_virt_addr, cmd);
> >>>> +		if (status != MC_CMD_STATUS_READY)
> >>>> +			break;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		/*
> >>>> +		 * TODO: When MC command completion interrupts are supported
> >>>> +		 * call wait function here instead of udelay()
> >>>> +		 */
> >>>> +		udelay(MC_CMD_COMPLETION_POLLING_INTERVAL_USECS);
> >>>
> >>> this pauses any caller for 0.5ms on every successful command
> >>> write.  Can the next submission of the patchseries wait until
> >>> completion IRQs are indeed supported, since both that and the above
> >>> locking needs to be resolved?
> >>>
> >> No. Interrupt handlers will come in a later patch series as they are
> >> not needed for using the basic MC functionality.
> >
> > meanwhile unnecessarily udelaying kernel threads for .5ms upsets
> > basic kernel functionality :)  Would using the kernel's
> > wait_for_completion API be a good compromise here?  See
> > include/linux/completion.h.
> >
> The intent of doing the udelay() in the middle of the polling loop was 
> to throttle down the frequency of I/Os done while polling for the
> completion of the command. Can you elaborate on why ".5ms udelay upsets
> basic kernel functionality"?

It introduces latency, especially since it's possible for it to happen
with interrupts disabled.  And you're actually potentially blocking for
more than that, since 500us is just one iteration of the loop.

The jiffies test for exiting the loop is 500ms, which is *way* too long
to spend in a critical section.

> Would it be better to just use "plain delay loop", instead of the udelay 
> call, such as the following?
> 
> for (i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
>     ;

No, never do that.  You have no idea how long it will actually take.
GCC might even optimize it out entirely.

> I can see that in the cases where we use "completion interrupts", the 
> ISR can signal the completion, and the polling loop can be replaced by 
> waiting on the completion. However, I don't see how using a completion 
> can help make a polling loop more efficient, if you don't have a 
> "completion interrupt" to signal the completion.

It's not about making it more efficient.  It's about not causing
problems for other things going on in the system.

-Scott


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