linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] devicetree: i2c-hid: Add Wacom digitizer + regulator support

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Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLpjhHeeKq3PmNToux1Rgkg0M84-dv9HGCOws223ima4w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 9 Dec 2016 09:01:18 -0600
From:   Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:     Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>
Cc:     Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>,
        Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>,
        Brian Norris <briannorris@...omium.org>,
        Caesar Wang <wxt@...k-chips.com>,
        "open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..." <linux-rockchip@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "linux-input@...r.kernel.org" <linux-input@...r.kernel.org>,
        "devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] devicetree: i2c-hid: Add Wacom digitizer +
 regulator support

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Rob Herring wrote:
>
>> > And if tomorrow there is Elan device that is drop-in compatible (same
>> > connector, etc) with Wacom i2c-hid, will you ask for Elan-specific
>> > binding? Atmel? Weida? They all need to be powered up ultimately.
>>
>> Yes, I will.
>
> What advantage does that bring?
>
>> That in no way means the OS driver has to know about each and every one.
>> If they can all claim compatibility with Wacom (including power
>> control), then they can have a Wacom compatible string too. Or you can
>> just never tell me that there's a different manufacturer and I won't
>> care as long you don't need different control. But soon as a device
>> needs another power rail, GPIO or different timing, then you'd better
>> have a new compatible string.
>
> Again, I simply don't understand what advantage does the aproach you are
> trying to use bring.

This is simply how DT works. HID-over-I2C devices are no different
than any other I2C device or any other component. You are not special.

> HID over I2C is a generic protocol.

DT describes h/w, not protocols.

> Sure, we need to have quirks for
> device-specific bugs, and in such cases enumerate particular devices. But
> we don't need DT for that at all.

When it is related to powering on the device you may need to know the
specific device in DT. Compatibles are like VID/PID for devices, a
unique identifier for the specific device. Having that does not to
prevent generic/common drivers. The same rules apply. You wouldn't
want different devices having the same VID/PID (surely that has never
happened) or only change a VID/PID when you find a bug. The same rules
apply for compatible strings. You should be able to apply quirks
without changing/adding compatible strings (or more generally, without
changing the dtb). Just like you wouldn't change a VID/PID for a
device only when you find a bug, you can't add/change a DT compatible.

BTW, As you do have a VID/PID, you could define a compatible string
syntax using VID/PID like is done for PCI and USB.

Rob