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Message-ID: <CAKfTPtARomXaQsk92aVdeGqwimhQPYzi6suMAiyT-6Zwjso1Dw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:42:44 +0100
From:   Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To:     "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>
Cc:     Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, LKP <lkp@...org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [lkp-developer] [sched/fair] 4e5160766f: +149%
 ftq.noise.50% regression

Hi Ying,

On 28 December 2016 at 09:17, Huang, Ying <ying.huang@...el.com> wrote:
> Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org> writes:
>
>> Le Tuesday 13 Dec 2016 . 09:47:30 (+0800), Huang, Ying a .crit :
>>> Hi, Vincent,
>>>
>>> Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org> writes:
>>>
>>> > Hi Ying,
>>> >
>>> > On 12 December 2016 at 06:43, kernel test robot
>>> > <ying.huang@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> >> Greeting,
>>> >>
>>> >> FYI, we noticed a 149% regression of ftq.noise.50% due to commit:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> commit: 4e5160766fcc9f41bbd38bac11f92dce993644aa ("sched/fair: Propagate asynchrous detach")
>>> >> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git master
>>> >>
>>> >> in testcase: ftq
>>> >> on test machine: 8 threads Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 8G memory
>>> >> with following parameters:
>>> >>
>>> >>         nr_task: 100%
>>> >>         samples: 6000ss
>>> >>         test: cache
>>> >>         freq: 20
>>> >>         cpufreq_governor: powersave
>>> >
>>> > Why using powersave ? Are you testing  every governors ?
>>>
>>> We will test performance and powersave governor for FTQ.
>>
>> Ok thanks
>>
>>>
>>> >>
>>> >> test-description: The FTQ benchmarks measure hardware and software interference or 'noise' on a node from the applications perspective.
>>> >> test-url: https://github.com/rminnich/ftq
>>> >
>>> > It's a bit difficult to understand exactly what is measured and what
>>> > is ftq.noise.50% because this result is not part of the bench which
>>> > seems to only record a log of data in a file and ftq.noise.50% seems
>>> > to be lkp specific
>>>
>>> Yes. FTQ itself has no noise statistics builtin, although it is an OS
>>> noise benchmark.  ftq.noise.50% is calculated as below:
>>>
>>> There is a score for every sample of ftq.  The lower the score, the
>>> higher the noises.  ftq.noise.50% is the number (per 1000000 samples) of
>>> samples whose score is less than 50% of the mean score.
>>>
>>
>> ok so IIUC we have moved from 0.03% to 0.11% for ftq.noise.50%
>>
>> I have not been able to reproduce the regression on the different system that I have access to so I can only guess the root cause of the regression.
>>
>> Could it be possible to test if the patch below fix the regression ?
>>
>>
>> ---
>>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>  1 file changed, 28 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index 090a9bb..8efa113 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -3138,6 +3138,31 @@ static inline int propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
>>       return 1;
>>  }
>>
>> +/* Check if we need to update the load and the utilization of a group_entity */
>> +static inline bool skip_blocked_update(struct sched_entity *se)
>> +{
>> +     struct cfs_rq *gcfs_rq = group_cfs_rq(se);
>> +
>> +     /*
>> +      * If sched_entity still have not null load or utilization, we have to
>> +      * decay it.
>> +      */
>> +     if (se->avg.load_avg || se->avg.util_avg)
>> +             return false;
>> +
>> +     /*
>> +      * If there is a pending propagation, we have to update the load and
>> +      * the utilizaion of the sched_entity
>> +      */
>> +     if (gcfs_rq->propagate_avg)
>> +             return false;
>> +
>> +     /*
>> +      * Other wise, the load and the utilizaiton of the sched_entity is
>> +      * already null so it will be a waste of time to try to decay it
>> +      */
>> +     return true;
>> +}
>>  #else /* CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED */
>>
>>  static inline void update_tg_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, int force) {}
>> @@ -6858,6 +6883,7 @@ static void update_blocked_averages(int cpu)
>>  {
>>       struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
>>       struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq;
>> +     struct sched_entity *se;
>>       unsigned long flags;
>>
>>       raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rq->lock, flags);
>> @@ -6876,7 +6902,8 @@ static void update_blocked_averages(int cpu)
>>                       update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq, 0);
>>
>>               /* Propagate pending load changes to the parent */
>> -             if (cfs_rq->tg->se[cpu])
>> +             se = cfs_rq->tg->se[cpu];
>> +             if (se && !skip_blocked_update(se))
>>                       update_load_avg(cfs_rq->tg->se[cpu], 0);
>>       }
>>       raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rq->lock, flags);
>
> The test result is as follow,
>
> =========================================================================================
> compiler/cpufreq_governor/freq/kconfig/nr_task/rootfs/samples/tbox_group/test/testcase:
>   gcc-6/powersave/20/x86_64-rhel-7.2/100%/debian-x86_64-2016-08-31.cgz/6000ss/lkp-hsw-d01/cache/ftq
>
> commit:
>   4e5160766fcc9f41bbd38bac11f92dce993644aa: first bad commit
>   09a43ace1f986b003c118fdf6ddf1fd685692d49: parent of first bad commit
>   0613870ea53a7a279d8d37f2a3ce40aafc155fc8: debug commit with above patch
>
> 4e5160766fcc9f41 09a43ace1f986b003c118fdf6d 0613870ea53a7a279d8d37f2a3
> ---------------- -------------------------- --------------------------
>          %stddev     %change         %stddev     %change         %stddev
>              \          |                \          |                \
>      61670 ±228%     -96.5%       2148 ± 11%     -94.7%       3281 ± 58%  ftq.noise.25%
>       3463 ± 10%     -60.0%       1386 ± 19%     -26.3%       2552 ± 58%  ftq.noise.50%
>       1116 ± 23%     -72.6%     305.99 ± 30%     -35.8%     716.15 ± 64%  ftq.noise.75%
>    3843815 ±  3%      +3.1%    3963589 ±  1%     -49.6%    1938221 ±100%  ftq.time.involuntary_context_switches
>       5.33 ± 30%     +21.4%       6.46 ± 14%     -71.7%       1.50 ±108%  time.system_time
>
>
> It appears that the system_time and involuntary_context_switches reduced
> much after applied the debug patch, which is good from noise point of
> view.  ftq.noise.50% reduced compared with the first bad commit, but
> have not restored to that of the parent of the first bad commit.

Thanks for testing. I will try to improve it a bit but not sure that I
can reduce more.

Regards,
Vincent

>
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying

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