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Message-ID: <874l3ighvm.fsf@xmission.com>
Date:   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:32:13 -0500
From:   ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:     Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@...hat.com>
Cc:     Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>,
        "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
        Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>,
        containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux-Audit Mailing List <linux-audit@...hat.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
        sgrubb@...hat.com, omosnace@...hat.com, dhowells@...hat.com,
        simo@...hat.com, Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org>,
        nhorman@...driver.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH ghak90 V6 02/10] audit: add container id

Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@...hat.com> writes:

> On 2019-07-16 19:30, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 6:03 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@...hat.com> wrote:
>> > On 2019-07-15 17:04, Paul Moore wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 2:06 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@...hat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > > At this point I would say we are at an impasse unless we trust
>> > > > ns_capable() or we implement audit namespaces.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure how we can trust ns_capable(), but if you can think of a
>> > > way I would love to hear it.  I'm also not sure how namespacing audit
>> > > is helpful (see my above comments), but if you think it is please
>> > > explain.
>> >
>> > So if we are not namespacing, why do we not trust capabilities?
>> 
>> We can trust capable(CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL) for enforcing audit container
>> ID policy, we can not trust ns_capable(CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL).
>
> Ok.  So does a process in a non-init user namespace have two (or more)
> sets of capabilities stored in creds, one in the init_user_ns, and one
> in current_user_ns?  Or does it get stripped of all its capabilities in
> init_user_ns once it has its own set in current_user_ns?  If the former,
> then we can use capable().  If the latter, we need another mechanism, as
> you have suggested might be needed.

The latter.  There is only one set of capabilities and it is in the
processes current user namespace.

Eric

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