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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 16:35:11 +0200
From: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
To: Frederick Lawler <fred@...udflare.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns()
On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 09:01:32AM -0500, Frederick Lawler wrote:
> On 7/8/22 7:10 AM, Christian Göttsche wrote:
> > ,On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:32, Frederick Lawler <fred@...udflare.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > While creating a LSM BPF MAC policy to block user namespace creation, we
> > > used the LSM cred_prepare hook because that is the closest hook to prevent
> > > a call to create_user_ns().
> > >
> > > The calls look something like this:
> > >
> > > cred = prepare_creds()
> > > security_prepare_creds()
> > > call_int_hook(cred_prepare, ...
> > > if (cred)
> > > create_user_ns(cred)
> > >
> > > We noticed that error codes were not propagated from this hook and
> > > introduced a patch [1] to propagate those errors.
> > >
> > > The discussion notes that security_prepare_creds()
> > > is not appropriate for MAC policies, and instead the hook is
> > > meant for LSM authors to prepare credentials for mutation. [2]
> > >
> > > Ultimately, we concluded that a better course of action is to introduce
> > > a new security hook for LSM authors. [3]
> > >
> > > This patch set first introduces a new security_create_user_ns() function
> > > and create_user_ns LSM hook, then marks the hook as sleepable in BPF.
> >
> > Some thoughts:
> >
> > I.
> >
> > Why not make the hook more generic, e.g. support all other existing
> > and potential future namespaces?
>
> The main issue with a generic hook is that different namespaces have
> different calling contexts. We decided in a previous discussion to opt-out
> of a generic hook for this reason. [1]
Agreed.
>
> > Also I think the naming scheme is <object>_<verb>.
>
> That's a good call out. I was originally hoping to keep the security_*()
> match with the hook name matched with the caller function to keep things all
> aligned. If no one objects to renaming the hook, I can rename the hook for
> v3.
>
> >
> > LSM_HOOK(int, 0, namespace_create, const struct cred *cred,
> > unsigned int flags)
> >
> > where flags is a bitmap of CLONE flags from include/uapi/linux/sched.h
> > (like CLONE_NEWUSER).
> >
> > II.
> >
> > While adding policing for namespaces maybe also add a new hook for setns(2)
> >
> > LSM_HOOK(int, 0, namespace_join, const struct cred *subj, const
> > struct cred *obj, unsigned int flags)
> >
>
> IIUC, setns() will create a new namespace for the other namespaces except
> for user namespace. If we add a security hook for the other create_*_ns()
setns() doesn't create new namespaces. It just switches to already
existing ones:
setns(<pidfd>, <flags>)
-> prepare_nsset()
/*
* Notice the 0 passed as flags which means all namespaces will
* just take a reference.
*/
-> create_new_namespaces(0, ...)
you're thinking about unshare() and unshare() will be caught in
create_user_ns().
> functions, then we can catch setns() at that point.
If you block the creation of user namespaces by unprivileged users in
create_user_ns() you can only create user namespaces as a privileged
user. Consequently only a privileged users can setns() to a user
namespace. So either the caller has CAP_SYS_ADMIN in the parent userns
or they are located in the parent userns and are the owner of the userns
they are attaching to. So if you lock create_user_ns() to
capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) you should be done.
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