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Message-ID: <20221108174529.pp4qqi2mhpzww77p@quack3>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 18:45:29 +0100
From: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
Subject: Re: Crash with PREEMPT_RT on aarch64 machine
On Tue 08-11-22 10:53:40, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 11:49:01AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 11/7/22 10:10, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > + locking, arm64
> > >
> > > On 2022-11-07 14:56:36 [+0100], Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > spinlock_t and raw_spinlock_t differ slightly in terms of locking.
> > > > > rt_spin_lock() has the fast path via try_cmpxchg_acquire(). If you
> > > > > enable CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES then you would force the slow path which
> > > > > always acquires the rt_mutex_base::wait_lock (which is a raw_spinlock_t)
> > > > > while the actual lock is modified via cmpxchg.
> > > > So I've tried enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES and indeed the corruption
> > > > stops happening as well. So do you suspect some bug in the CPU itself?
> > > If it is only enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES (and not whole lockdep)
> > > then it looks very suspicious.
> > > CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES enables a few additional checks but the main
> > > part is that rt_mutex_cmpxchg_acquire() + rt_mutex_cmpxchg_release()
> > > always fail (and so the slowpath under a raw_spinlock_t is done).
> > >
> > > So if it is really the fast path (rt_mutex_cmpxchg_acquire()) then it
> > > somehow smells like the CPU is misbehaving.
> > >
> > > Could someone from the locking/arm64 department check if the locking in
> > > RT-mutex (rtlock_lock()) is correct?
> > >
> > > rtmutex locking uses try_cmpxchg_acquire(, ptr, ptr) for the fastpath
> > > (and try_cmpxchg_release(, ptr, ptr) for unlock).
> > > Now looking at it again, I don't see much difference compared to what
> > > queued_spin_trylock() does except the latter always operates on 32bit
> > > value instead a pointer.
> >
> > Both the fast path of queued spinlock and rt_spin_lock are using
> > try_cmpxchg_acquire(), the only difference I saw is the size of the data to
> > be cmpxchg'ed. qspinlock uses 32-bit integer whereas rt_spin_lock uses
> > 64-bit pointer. So I believe it is more on how the arm64 does cmpxchg. I
> > believe there are two different ways of doing it depending on whether LSE
> > atomics is available in the platform. So exactly what arm64 system is being
> > used here and what hardware capability does it have?
>
> From the /proc/cpuinfo output earlier, this is a Neoverse N1 system, with the
> LSE atomics. Assuming the kernel was built with support for atomics in-kernel
> (which is selected by default), it'll be using the LSE version.
So I was able to reproduce the corruption both with LSE atomics enabled &
disabled in the kernel. It seems the problem takes considerably longer to
reproduce with LSE atomics enabled but it still does happen.
BTW, I've tried to reproduced the problem on another aarch64 machine with
CPU from a different vendor:
processor : 0
BogoMIPS : 200.00
Features : fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 atomics fphp asimdhp cpuid asimdrdm jscvt fcma dcpop asimddp asimdfhm
CPU implementer : 0x48
CPU architecture: 8
CPU variant : 0x1
CPU part : 0xd01
CPU revision : 0
And there the problem does not reproduce. So might it be a genuine bug in
the CPU implementation?
Honza
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Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
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