linux-kernel - Re: Crash with PREEMPT

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Message-ID: <Y2o1NAE7d6Tf5ILt@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com>
Date:   Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:53:40 +0000
From:   Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
To:     Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
Cc:     Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
Subject: Re: Crash with PREEMPT_RT on aarch64 machine

On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 11:49:01AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 11/7/22 10:10, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > + locking, arm64
> > 
> > On 2022-11-07 14:56:36 [+0100], Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > spinlock_t and raw_spinlock_t differ slightly in terms of locking.
> > > > rt_spin_lock() has the fast path via try_cmpxchg_acquire(). If you
> > > > enable CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES then you would force the slow path which
> > > > always acquires the rt_mutex_base::wait_lock (which is a raw_spinlock_t)
> > > > while the actual lock is modified via cmpxchg.
> > > So I've tried enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES and indeed the corruption
> > > stops happening as well. So do you suspect some bug in the CPU itself?
> > If it is only enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES (and not whole lockdep)
> > then it looks very suspicious.
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_MUTEXES enables a few additional checks but the main
> > part is that rt_mutex_cmpxchg_acquire() + rt_mutex_cmpxchg_release()
> > always fail (and so the slowpath under a raw_spinlock_t is done).
> > 
> > So if it is really the fast path (rt_mutex_cmpxchg_acquire()) then it
> > somehow smells like the CPU is misbehaving.
> > 
> > Could someone from the locking/arm64 department check if the locking in
> > RT-mutex (rtlock_lock()) is correct?
> > 
> > rtmutex locking uses try_cmpxchg_acquire(, ptr, ptr) for the fastpath
> > (and try_cmpxchg_release(, ptr, ptr) for unlock).
> > Now looking at it again, I don't see much difference compared to what
> > queued_spin_trylock() does except the latter always operates on 32bit
> > value instead a pointer.
> 
> Both the fast path of queued spinlock and rt_spin_lock are using
> try_cmpxchg_acquire(), the only difference I saw is the size of the data to
> be cmpxchg'ed. qspinlock uses 32-bit integer whereas rt_spin_lock uses
> 64-bit pointer. So I believe it is more on how the arm64 does cmpxchg. I
> believe there are two different ways of doing it depending on whether LSE
> atomics is available in the platform. So exactly what arm64 system is being
> used here and what hardware capability does it have?

>From the /proc/cpuinfo output earlier, this is a Neoverse N1 system, with the
LSE atomics. Assuming the kernel was built with support for atomics in-kernel
(which is selected by default), it'll be using the LSE version.

Mark.