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Message-ID: <20250220232329.GA39373@system.software.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 08:23:29 +0900
From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@...com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	kernel_team@...ynix.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	ying.huang@...el.com, vernhao@...cent.com,
	mgorman@...hsingularity.net, hughd@...gle.com, willy@...radead.org,
	david@...hat.com, peterz@...radead.org, luto@...nel.org,
	tglx@...utronix.de, mingo@...hat.com, bp@...en8.de,
	dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com, rjgolo@...il.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v12 00/26] LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) reducing tlb numbers
 over 90%

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 07:15:44AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 2/19/25 21:20, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > I'm posting the latest version so that anyone can try luf mechanism if
> > wanted by any chance.  However, I tagged RFC again because there are
> > still issues that should be resolved to merge to mainline:
> 
> I don't see anything fundamentally different here from the last 11
> versions. I think the entire approach is dangerous and basically makes
> things impossible to debug. It's not clear that some of the failure
> scenarios that I've brought up in the past have actually been fixed.

Respect your opinion.

> What I've said here still stands:
> 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/fab1dd64-c652-4160-93b4-7b483a8874da@intel.com/
> 
> > I think tglx would call all of this "tinkering".  The approach to this
> > series is to "fix" narrow, specific cases that reviewers point out, make
> > it compile, then send it out again, hoping someone will apply it.
> > 
> > So, for me, until the approach to this series changes: NAK, for x86.
> > Andrew, please don't take this series.  Or, if you do, please drop the
> > patch enabling it on x86.
> 
> I think I'd also like to stop being cc'd on this. If LUF is merged into

I will un-cc you from the next spin.

	Byungchul

> mainline and proven to work on arm64 or riscv for a year, I'd be happy
> to take another look at enabling it on x86. I think that's just about
> the only thing that would make me reconsider.

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