netdev - Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

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Message-ID: <5640c7e00703041646w32d7bc77s33d1fca4755a1b78@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:46:36 +1300
From:	"Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald@...di.co.nz>
To:	"Matt Mackall" <mpm@...enic.com>
Cc:	"Johannes Berg" <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	"Greg KH" <greg@...ah.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, yi.zhu@...el.com, jketreno@...ux.intel.com,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>, akpm@...l.org
Subject: Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

On 3/5/07, Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com> wrote:
> > This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is
> > to upgrade hal to a current git version.
>
> If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break
> userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading from 2.6.x to
> 2.6.x+1 should not entail replacing substantial parts of userspace,
> especially with NOT-EVEN-FRAKKING-RELEASED-YET CODE.
>
> I will try a new HAL when it shows up in Debian/unstable and not a
> moment sooner.
>
But you're running a kernel that's not in Debian/unstable so this
seems a bit hypocritical.

When you work with bleeding edge kernels you have to be prepared to
work around things. Hell for ages git wasn't in Debian - unstable
even, udev would break things etc.

Just my 2c worth.
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