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Message-ID: <1292508733.2883.152.camel@edumazet-laptop>
Date:	Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:12:13 +0100
From:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
To:	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...x.dk>
Cc:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@...hat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	netfilter-devel <netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter P Waskiewicz Jr <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@...el.com>
Subject: Re: Possible regression: Packet drops during iptables calls

Le jeudi 16 décembre 2010 à 15:04 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer a
écrit :
> On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 17:24 +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > Le mardi 14 décembre 2010 à 17:09 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer a écrit :
> > > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 16:31 +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > > Le mardi 14 décembre 2010 à 15:46 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > I'm experiencing RX packet drops during call to iptables, on my
> > > > > production servers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Further investigations showed, that its only the CPU executing the
> > > > > iptables command that experience packet drops!?  Thus, a quick fix was
> > > > > to force the iptables command to run on one of the idle CPUs (This can
> > > > > be achieved with the "taskset" command).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a 2x Xeon 5550 CPU system, thus 16 CPUs (with HT enabled).  We
> > > > > only use 8 CPUs due to a multiqueue limitation of 8 queues in the
> > > > > 1Gbit/s NICs (82576 chips).  CPUs 0 to 7 is assigned for packet
> > > > > processing via smp_affinity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can someone explain why the packet drops only occur on the CPU
> > > > > executing the iptables command?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It blocks BH
> > > > 
> > > > take a look at commits :
> > > > 
> > > > 24b36f0193467fa727b85b4c004016a8dae999b9
> > > > netfilter: {ip,ip6,arp}_tables: dont block bottom half more than
> > > > necessary 
> > > > 
> > > > 001389b9581c13fe5fc357a0f89234f85af4215d
> > > > netfilter: {ip,ip6,arp}_tables: avoid lockdep false positiv
> <... cut ...>
> > > 
> > > Looking closer at the two combined code change, I see that the code path
> > > has been improved (a bit), as the local BH is only disabled inside the
> > > for_each_possible_cpu(cpu).  Before local_bh was disabled for the hole
> > > function.  Guess I need to reproduce this in my testlab.
> 
> 
> To do some further investigation into the unfortunate behavior of the
> iptables get_counters() function I started to use "ftrace".  This is a
> really useful tool (thanks Steven Rostedt).
> 
>  # Select the tracer "function_graph"
>  echo function_graph > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/current_tracer
> 
>  # Limit the number of function we look at:
>  echo local_bh_\*  >   /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/set_ftrace_filter
>  echo get_counters >>  /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/set_ftrace_filter
> 
>  # Enable tracing while calling iptables
>  cd /sys/kernel/debug/tracing
>  echo 0 > trace
>  echo 1 > tracing_enabled;
>    taskset 1 iptables -vnL > /dev/null ;
>  echo 0 > tracing_enabled
>  cat trace | less
> 
> 
> The reduced output:
> 
> # tracer: function_graph
> #
> # CPU  DURATION                  FUNCTION CALLS
> # |     |   |                     |   |   |   |
>   2)   2.772 us    |  local_bh_disable();
> ....
>   0)   0.228 us    |  local_bh_enable();
>   0)               |  get_counters() {
>   0)   0.232 us    |    local_bh_disable();
>   0)   7.919 us    |    local_bh_enable();
>   0) ! 109467.1 us |  }
>   0)   2.344 us    |  local_bh_disable();
> 
> 
> The output show that we spend no less that 100 ms with local BH
> disabled.  So, no wonder that this causes packet drops in the NIC
> (attached to this CPU).
> 
> My iptables rule set in question is also very large, it contains:
>  Chains: 20929
>  Rules: 81239
> 
> The vmalloc size is approx 19 MB (19.820.544 bytes) (see
> /proc/vmallocinfo).  Looking through vmallocinfo I realized that
> even-though I only have 16 CPUs, there is 32 allocated rulesets
> "xt_alloc_table_info" (for the filter table). Thus, I have approx
> 634MB iptables filter rules in the kernel, half of which is totally
> unused.

Boot your machine with : "maxcpus=16 possible_cpus=16", it will be much
better ;)

> 
> Guess this is because we use: "for_each_possible_cpu" instead of
> "for_each_online_cpu". (Feel free to fix this, or point me to some
> documentation of this CPU hotplug stuff... I see we are missing
> get_cpu() and put_cpu() a lot of places).

Are you really using cpu hotplug ? If not, the "maxcpus=16
possible_cpus=16" trick should be enough for you.

> 
> 
> The GOOD NEWS, is that moving the local BH disable section into the
> "for_each_possible_cpu" fixed the problem with packet drops during
> iptables calls.
> 
> I wanted to profile with ftrace on the new code, but I cannot get the
> measurement I want. Perhaps Steven or Acme can help?
> 
> Now I want to measure the time used between the local_bh_disable() and
> local_bh_enable, within the loop.  I cannot figure out howto do that?
> The new trace looks almost the same as before, just a lot of
> local_bh_* inside the get_counters() function call.
> 
>  Guess is that the time spend is: 100 ms / 32 = 3.125 ms.
> 

yes, approximatly.

In order to accelerate, you could eventually pre-fill cpu cache before
the local_bh_disable() (just reading the table). So that critical
section is short, because mostly in your cpu cache.

> Now I just need to calculate, how large a NIC buffer I need to buffer
> 3.125 ms at 1Gbit/s.
> 
>  3.125 ms *  1Gbit/s = 390625 bytes
> 
> Can this be correct?
> 
> How much buffer does each queue have in the 82576 NIC?
> (Hope Alexander Duyck can answer this one?)
> 


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