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Message-ID: <20120815033155.GA32653@Krystal>
Date:	Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:31:55 -0400
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new hashtable implementation

* Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com) wrote:
> Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com> writes:
> 
> > On 08/15/2012 03:08 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >>> I can offer the following: I'll write a small module that will hash 1...10000
> >>> > into a hashtable which uses 7 bits (just like user_ns) and post the distribution
> >>> > we'll get.
> >> That won't hurt.  I think 1-100 then 1000-1100 may actually be more
> >> representative.  Not that I would mind seeing the larger range.
> >> Especially since I am in the process of encouraging the use of more
> >> uids.
> >> 
> >
> > Alrighty, the results are in (numbers are objects in bucket):
> >
> > For the 0...10000 range:
> >
> > Average: 78.125
> > Std dev: 1.4197704151
> > Min: 75
> > Max: 80
> >
> >
> > For the 1...100 range:
> >
> > Average: 0.78125
> > Std dev: 0.5164613088
> > Min: 0
> > Max: 2
> >
> >
> > For the 1000...1100 range:
> >
> > Average: 0.7890625
> > Std dev: 0.4964812206
> > Min: 0
> > Max: 2
> >
> >
> > Looks like hash_32 is pretty good with small numbers.
> 
> Yes hash_32 seems reasonable for the uid hash.   With those long hash
> chains I wouldn't like to be on a machine with 10,000 processes with
> each with a different uid, and a processes calling setuid in the fast
> path.
> 
> The uid hash that we are playing with is one that I sort of wish that
> the hash table could grow in size, so that we could scale up better.

Hi Eric,

If you want to try out something that has more features than a basic
hash table, already exists and is available for you to play with, you
might want to have a look at the RCU lock-free resizable hash table.
It's initially done in userspace, but shares the same RCU semantic as
the kernel, and has chunk-based kernel-friendly index backends (thanks
to Lai Jiangshan), very useful to integrate with the kernel page
allocator.

It has the following properties that might make this container a good
fit for uid hashing:

- Real-time friendly lookups: Lookups are RCU and wait-free.
- Fast and real-time friendly updates: Use cmpxchg for update, and RCU
  to deal with ABA.
- Resize (expand/shrink) for each power of two size, performed
  concurrently with ongoing updates and lookups.
- Has add_unique (uniquify), add_replace, and also duplicate semantics.
- Provide uniqueness guarantees for RCU traversals of the hash table
  with respect to add_unique and add_replace.

So if you are looking for a fast, RT-friendly, resizable hash table to
play with, you might want to have a look at the userspace RCU
implementation, which now features this hash table:

https://lttng.org/urcu

See urcu/rculfhash.h for the API.

Best regards,

Mathieu

> 
> Aw well.  Most of the time we only have a very small number of uids
> in play, so it doesn't matter at this point.
> 
> Eric
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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