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Date:	Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:14:18 +0900
From:	YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>
To:	Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@...il.com>
CC:	hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com,
	network dev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	davem@...emloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] net/ipv6: add sysctl option accept_ra_hop_limit

Hangbin Liu wrote:
> 2015-07-28 11:58 GMT+08:00 YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
> <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hangbin Liu wrote:
>>> 2015-07-28 7:50 GMT+08:00 YOSHIFUJI Hideaki/吉藤英明
>>> <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Hangbin Liu wrote:
>>>>> Commit 6fd99094de2b ("ipv6: Don't reduce hop limit for an interface")
>>>>> disabled accept hop limit from RA if it is higher than the current hop
>>>>> limit for security stuff. But this behavior kind of break the RFC definition.
>>>>>
>>>>> RFC 4861, 6.3.4.  Processing Received Router Advertisements
>>>>>    If the received Cur Hop Limit value is non-zero, the host SHOULD set
>>>>>    its CurHopLimit variable to the received value.
>>>>>
>>>>> So add sysctl option accept_ra_hop_limit to let user choose whether accept
>>>>> hop limit info in RA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How about introducing "minimum hop limit", instead?
>>>
>>> Hi Yoshifuji,
>>>
>>> This is a good idea. Maybe this can be another sysctl option?
>>>
>>> The minimum hop limit can be an enhancement of the security issue, then we will
>>> not only increase the hop limit, but also could decrease it in the
>>> range of values we
>>> accept.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, with this patch, we can enable, disable or partly
>>> enable accept
>>> hop limit. If we only use "minimum hop limit", people could not use a static hop
>>> limit value.
>>>
>>> May be we use a “hop limit range" instead? How do you think?
>>
>> I think name of sysctl is the same as you suggested and change the
>> semantics.  default value is 0 to accept all hotlimit value
>> as before and people can set it to 32 (for example) to reject
>> too-small hoplimit (0-31).
> 
> OK, then I will try submit a "minimum hop limit", thanks for your suggestion :)

accept_ra_min_hop_limit would be better as we have
accept_ra_rt_info_max_plen.

> 
> Regards
> Hangbin
>>
>> --yoshfuji
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Hangbin
>>>
>>>>
>>>> |commit 6fd99094de2b83d1d4c8457f2c83483b2828e75a
>>>> |Author: D.S. Ljungmark <ljungmark@...io.se>
>>>> |Date:   Wed Mar 25 09:28:15 2015 +0100
>>>> |
>>>> |    ipv6: Don't reduce hop limit for an interface
>>>> :
>>>> |    RFC 3756, Section 4.2.7, "Parameter Spoofing"
>>>> |
>>>> :
>>>> |   >   As an example, one possible approach to mitigate this threat is to
>>>> |    >   ignore very small hop limits.  The nodes could implement a
>>>> |    >   configurable minimum hop limit, and ignore attempts to set it below
>>>> |    >   said limit.
>>
>> --
>> Hideaki Yoshifuji <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>
>> Technical Division, MIRACLE LINUX CORPORATION

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Hideaki Yoshifuji <hideaki.yoshifuji@...aclelinux.com>
Technical Division, MIRACLE LINUX CORPORATION
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