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Message-ID: <36270681-17f7-1c13-9d9a-7b90973cfcba@fb.com>
Date:   Thu, 18 Apr 2019 04:33:50 +0000
From:   Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:     "daniel@...earbox.net" <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "bpf@...r.kernel.org" <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Kernel Team" <Kernel-team@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf: document the verifier limits



On 4/17/19 6:27 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> Document the verifier limits.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>

Acked-by: Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>

> ---
>   Documentation/bpf/bpf_design_QA.rst | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>   1 file changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/bpf/bpf_design_QA.rst b/Documentation/bpf/bpf_design_QA.rst
> index 10453c627135..cb402c59eca5 100644
> --- a/Documentation/bpf/bpf_design_QA.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/bpf/bpf_design_QA.rst
> @@ -85,8 +85,33 @@ Q: Can loops be supported in a safe way?
>   A: It's not clear yet.
>   
>   BPF developers are trying to find a way to
> -support bounded loops where the verifier can guarantee that
> -the program terminates in less than 4096 instructions.
> +support bounded loops.
> +
> +Q: What are the verifier limits?
> +--------------------------------
> +A: The only limit known to the user space is BPF_MAXINSNS (4096).
> +It's the maximum number of instructions that the unprivileged bpf
> +program can have. The verifier has various internal limits.
> +Like the maximum number of instructions that can be explored during
> +program analysis. Currently, that limit is set to 1 million.
> +Which essentially means that the largest program can consist
> +of 1 million NOP instructions. There is a limit to the maximum number
> +of subsequent branches, a limit to the number of nested bpf-to-bpf
> +calls, a limit to the number of the verifier states per instruction,
> +a limit to the number of maps used by the program.
> +All these limits can be hit with a sufficiently complex program.
> +There are also non-numerical limits that can cause the program
> +to be rejected. The verifier used to recognize only pointer + constant
> +expressions. Now it can recognize pointer + bounded_register.
> +bpf_lookup_map_elem(key) had a requirement that 'key' must be
> +a pointer to the stack. Now, 'key' can be a pointer to map value.
> +The verifier is steadily getting 'smarter'. The limits are
> +being removed. The only way to know that the program is going to
> +be accepted by the verifier is to try to load it.
> +The bpf development process guarantees that the future kernel
> +versions will accept all bpf programs that were accepted by
> +the earlier versions.
> +
>   
>   Instruction level questions
>   ---------------------------
> 

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