phc-discussions - Re: [PHC] How important is salting really?

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Message-ID: <CALn24pD7yXh79S-tNTt=kzpHKyDBr-pd6zgBvN22K=WAjp_CpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:58:38 -0800
From: "Bitweasil ." <bitweasil@...ptohaze.com>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net
Subject: Re: [PHC] How important is salting really?

A factor of N slowdown in cracking, where N is the number of unique salts
in the uncracked list of hashes.
On Dec 11, 2014 4:57 PM, "Marsh Ray" <maray@...rosoft.com> wrote:

>  Password security researchers learn more and more from data breaches
> seemingly every week. Dictionaries and candidate generation algorithms get
> better all the time. So here’s a question. Maybe the answer has changed
> over the last few years and we should revisit our assumptions.
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> Two different people independently choose this same password. It could be
> “ilovecats” or it could be something less obvious.
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> What is the probability that this password will not be in attackers’
> dictionaries or it will be hard to crack?
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> (If this chance is small, then what do we gain by salting?)
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> -          Marsh
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